fxdpntc Posted December 19, 2019 at 03:26 PM Share Posted December 19, 2019 at 03:26 PM Electorally, Virginia is basically a suburb of Washington DC. Or basically, your employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted December 21, 2019 at 05:20 AM Share Posted December 21, 2019 at 05:20 AM What exactly are the laws that were passed that caused these responses by the citizens of Virginia? A semi-auto ban? A ban of certain specific rifles?And were there grandfather clauses? Or were these laws just a surrender or else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted December 21, 2019 at 05:56 AM Share Posted December 21, 2019 at 05:56 AM Surrender or else. Not allowed to assemble for the purpose of discussing firearms or training in the use of firearms. Supposedly the one prohibiting assembly has been on the books since reconstruction, but it was amended to give it teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmallie Posted December 21, 2019 at 01:13 PM Share Posted December 21, 2019 at 01:13 PM What exactly are the laws that were passed that caused these responses by the citizens of Virginia? These are all pre-filed bills. Nothing has been passed. But the plethora of bills cover a wide range of rights infringements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmarkla Posted December 21, 2019 at 01:41 PM Share Posted December 21, 2019 at 01:41 PM That is the problem. If gun owners had gone to the polls a few weeks ago none of this would be necessary. On the other hand, maybe these events will show others that they do want to take your firearms. even though they say they don't , so they can get elected. If we own firearms and don't vote, we are the problem. I doubt people who are members here don't vote but we probably know someone that may need some encouragement to do their civic duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frizzytryan Posted December 23, 2019 at 03:21 AM Share Posted December 23, 2019 at 03:21 AM Here is a great video from Accuracy X in Virgina, regarding the latest bill in their Senate. Share it far and wide boys, we could be next.https://youtu.be/Rk_md3j5YZg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 23, 2019 at 04:19 AM Share Posted December 23, 2019 at 04:19 AM Here is a great video from Accuracy X in Virgina, regarding the latest bill in their Senate. Share it far and wide boys, we could be next.https://youtu.be/Rk_md3j5YZgCorrection, more than likely WILL be next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frizzytryan Posted December 23, 2019 at 05:18 AM Share Posted December 23, 2019 at 05:18 AM Here is a great video from Accuracy X in Virgina, regarding the latest bill in their Senate. Share it far and wide boys, we could be next. https://youtu.be/Rk_md3j5YZgCorrection, more than likely WILL be nextYes sir, exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted December 23, 2019 at 05:35 AM Share Posted December 23, 2019 at 05:35 AM Guy on video says “it is not a Republicans vs. Democrats issue”. Anybody know how many Republicans in the State legislature are supporting the Virginia gun control proposed laws ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted December 23, 2019 at 03:39 PM Share Posted December 23, 2019 at 03:39 PM This in my email today: Jack —Last month, we pulled off a huge victory for gun safety in Virginia — we flipped the Virginia General Assembly by electing a Gun Sense Majority in the House of Delegates and State Senate. Everytown and Moms Demand Action were a huge part of our victory.I am the first Muslim elected to the Virginia State Senate. I'm so proud that voters are giving me the opportunity to serve them and give a more powerful voice for marginalized communities across Virginia. And Moms Demand Action volunteers were with our campaign every step of the way. Together, we made phone calls, knocked on doors, and texted voters in my district right up to polls closing. The tireless activism of Moms Demand Action volunteers fuels the kind of landmark election results we had in November. Our victories across Virginia in 2019 were huge wins for gun safety and for everyone in the Commonwealth. In 2020, we will work to pass stronger gun laws and reduce gun violence in communities across Virginia. Everytown and Moms Demand are a critical part of that work. In our most competitive districts in Virginia, polling found that gun safety was the top issue bringing voters to the polls. We know this is an issue important to so many Americans, and we keep seeing it's a winning issue at the ballot box. In 2018, we elected a Gun Sense Majority to the U.S. House of Representatives, and this year Virginia elected a General Assembly controlled by lawmakers that want to pass stronger gun laws. Donate to Everytown for Gun Safety Action Fund and Moms Demand Action today to keep the movement to end gun violence strong in 2020.The change in Virginia made it clear to gun lobby-backed politicians: if you refuse to act in the face of tragic gun violence, voters will replace you.I'm looking forward to passing gun safety laws in Virginia, and seeing all the amazing work Everytown and Moms Demand Action will do across the country next year. Support the movement to end gun violence in America with a contribution today >>Thank you for fighting to end gun violence,Ghazala Hashmi, PhDSenator-ElectVirginia's 10th Senatorial District Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted December 23, 2019 at 05:00 PM Share Posted December 23, 2019 at 05:00 PM Well, the lefties have definitely taken over Virginia and it's probably over for the gun owners of that state.I've been following the situation and people are definitely upset and there is a lot of talk of "resistance".But we all know how things like this end. The laws will be passed and there really isn't anything anyone can do about it except complain.Protesting will do nothing because the left doesn't care and will ignore everyone."Fighting at the ballot box" is a joke and that time has long past anyway. Cross another state off your gun freedom checklist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RECarry Posted December 24, 2019 at 04:00 AM Share Posted December 24, 2019 at 04:00 AM Well, the lefties have definitely taken over Virginia and it's probably over for the gun owners of that state.I've been following the situation and people are definitely upset and there is a lot of talk of "resistance".But we all know how things like this end. The laws will be passed and there really isn't anything anyone can do about it except complain.Protesting will do nothing because the left doesn't care and will ignore everyone."Fighting at the ballot box" is a joke and that time has long past anyway. Cross another state off your gun freedom checklist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted December 24, 2019 at 05:07 AM Share Posted December 24, 2019 at 05:07 AM Perhaps it’s time for all to find and fund the next “Heller”, to prevent the state ‘Governments’ form abusing the 14th amendment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted December 24, 2019 at 06:35 AM Share Posted December 24, 2019 at 06:35 AM Maybe its time SCOTUS makes a clear cut defintive answer to this crap one way or another. Tired of these people taking a bow for trampling over the Constitution and being funded by billionaires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 24, 2019 at 02:56 PM Share Posted December 24, 2019 at 02:56 PM Well, the lefties have definitely taken over Virginia and it's probably over for the gun owners of that state.I've been following the situation and people are definitely upset and there is a lot of talk of "resistance".But we all know how things like this end. The laws will be passed and there really isn't anything anyone can do about it except complain.Protesting will do nothing because the left doesn't care and will ignore everyone."Fighting at the ballot box" is a joke and that time has long past anyway. Cross another state off your gun freedom checklist.Theres always plan B (note: its a joke) This is all on the VA Dems. Theyre pushing too far. Its all done by King Mike https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/virginia-your-bloomberg-everytown-for-gun-safety-moms-demand-action-bought-and-paid-for-leaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted December 24, 2019 at 04:10 PM Share Posted December 24, 2019 at 04:10 PM Guy on video says “it is not a Republicans vs. Democrats issue”. Anybody know how many Republicans in the State legislature are supporting the Virginia gun control proposed laws ???They are trying to make any wishy-washy RINOs feel better about betraying their voter base, Talk to Peter Breen and Chris Nybo, as them how it's working out so far, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 24, 2019 at 04:19 PM Share Posted December 24, 2019 at 04:19 PM Guy on video says “it is not a Republicans vs. Democrats issue”.Anybody know how many Republicans in the State legislature are supporting the Virginia gun control proposed laws ??? They are trying to make any wishy-washy RINOs feel better about betraying their voter base, Talk to Peter Breen and Chris Nybo, as them how it's working out so far,Yep, and IL GOP Senate leadership (Pat Brady) is who funded gun control groups to push ads for those politicians https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/08/08/all-republicans-friends-of-the-2nd-amendment-think-again/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted December 24, 2019 at 06:33 PM Share Posted December 24, 2019 at 06:33 PM Guy on video says “it is not a Republicans vs. Democrats issue”. Anybody know how many Republicans in the State legislature are supporting the Virginia gun control proposed laws ???People who say that haven't been paying attention. This is why clueless gun owners keep voting for Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looper Posted December 26, 2019 at 01:29 AM Share Posted December 26, 2019 at 01:29 AM Guy on video says “it is not a Republicans vs. Democrats issue”. Anybody know how many Republicans in the State legislature are supporting the Virginia gun control proposed laws ???People who say that haven't been paying attention. This is why clueless gun owners keep voting for Democrats. Part of the problem is the Republicans put up so many crappy candidates. Many folks have more than 1 issue important to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted December 26, 2019 at 03:16 AM Share Posted December 26, 2019 at 03:16 AM Here is a great video from Accuracy X in Virgina, regarding the latest bill in their Senate. Share it far and wide boys, we could be next.https://youtu.be/Rk_md3j5YZgIt's a shame that the video was so chopped up. It almost looks like it was a bunch of clips that were combined, leaving changes in the speakers position, what appeared to be edited dialogue, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxdpntc Posted December 26, 2019 at 06:11 AM Share Posted December 26, 2019 at 06:11 AM Guy on video says “it is not a Republicans vs. Democrats issue”. Anybody know how many Republicans in the State legislature are supporting the Virginia gun control proposed laws ???Thats when I stopped listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxdpntc Posted December 26, 2019 at 10:33 PM Share Posted December 26, 2019 at 10:33 PM The Virginia Citizens Defense League and GOA have responded to Virginia Attorney Generals Advisory Opinion regarding Second Amendment Sanctuary Resolutions. December 26, 2019 To the Members of the Virginia General Assembly To Constitutional Officers of the Commonwealth To the People of Virginia RESPONSE TO VIRGINIA ATTORNEY GENERAL’S ADVISORY OPINION REGARDING SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY RESOLUTIONS Executive Summary Virginia Attorney General (“AG”) Mark Herring was asked to issue a formal legal opinion regarding Second Amendment Sanctuary Resolutions being adopted by counties, cities, and towns across Virginia. AG Herring’s official advisory opinion (“Herring AO”) was issued on December 20, 2019. In it, AG Herring argues that Second Amendment sanctuary resolutions (i) have “no legal effect,” (ii) local government officials “must comply with gun violence prevention measures that the General Assembly may enact,” and (iii) “neither local governments nor local constitutional officers have the authority to declare state statutes unconstitutional or decline to follow them on that basis.” Each of these contentions is untrue. Based on the Herring AO, and various statements reported in the press, it is apparent that AG Herring and Governor Ralph Northam believe that Virginia localities have a duty to actively assist the Commonwealth in the enforcement of any law enacted by the General Assembly. These officials appear to believe that such blind obedience is required irrespective of whether a law violates the U.S. Constitution, the Virginia Constitution, or is manifestly destructive of the pre- existing rights of the People of Virginia. This radical view is demonstrably false, and ignores the significance of the fact that local officials are required by law to take an oath to support the federal and state constitutions above the laws enacted by the General Assembly. Moreover, neither Attorney General Herring nor Governor Northam can credibly demand that local governments must implement every Act of the General Assembly, because that view directly contradicts the positions they have taken in the past. Indeed, on three recent occasions, AG Herring and Governor Northam have taken exactly the opposite legal position, with respect to: (i) the defense of the Virginia Marriage Amendment to the Virginia Constitution; (ii) the General Assembly’s refusal to assist the federal government with the arrest and detention of civilians as authorized by the National Defense Appropriations Act of 2012; and (iii) the right of localities in Virginia to become sanctuary cities with respect to the enforcement of federal immigration laws. Finally, the assertion that lesser magistrates owe slavish obedience to abusive higher authorities was never the view of the Founding Fathers, particularly those from the Commonwealth of Virginia. Had the English barons embraced this view, there might never have been a confrontation with King John at Runnymede, leading to the protections provided by Magna Carta. Had our nation’s founders embraced this view, Virginia might still be a colony of England. Truly, this view is contrary to the most basic principles which underlay our form of government, is anti-Biblical, and is profoundly abusive of the pre-existing and inalienable rights of the People of Virginia. Long read... https://gunowners.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/GOA-VCDL-Response-to-Herring-AO-December-26-2019.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 26, 2019 at 11:31 PM Share Posted December 26, 2019 at 11:31 PM Very well written. Facts, history, current laws.......this is gonna be interesting to watch unfold come January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted December 27, 2019 at 10:35 AM Share Posted December 27, 2019 at 10:35 AM Guy on video says “it is not a Republicans vs. Democrats issue”. Anybody know how many Republicans in the State legislature are supporting the Virginia gun control proposed laws ???People who say that haven't been paying attention. This is why clueless gun owners keep voting for Democrats. Part of the problem is the Republicans put up so many crappy candidates. Many folks have more than 1 issue important to them. Democrats are saying the same thing. Look at their debates.What is their platform right now?Impeach Trump. Everything else is just noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted December 27, 2019 at 03:02 PM Share Posted December 27, 2019 at 03:02 PM must comply with gun violence prevention measures that the General Assembly may enact This sentence in the letter from the AG really bothers me. On one hand they refer to the new bill as violence prevention when all it does is hurts the law abiding. On the other hand it states you must comply to what the GA MAY enact. I think back to when we were trying to pass a bill and the use of may vs. shall. We all know deep down what the VA D's want. It is total BS that these states can put together a law that is unconstitutional and keep it active while going through the courts to be deemed illegal. It is such a waste of resources and money that voters paid for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted December 28, 2019 at 05:11 PM Share Posted December 28, 2019 at 05:11 PM That was a VERY well written letter, however I bet nobody in the VA legislature will read it, or even care what it says. It irks me to no end to see how the D's and the left try to manipulate the language.They use terms like "gun violence protection" and "gun safety", but what it really means is "gun control". It's just an attempt to fool the uninformed to make their unconstitutional laws seem more palitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Flag Posted December 29, 2019 at 01:03 AM Share Posted December 29, 2019 at 01:03 AM Guy on video says “it is not a Republicans vs. Democrats issue”.Anybody know how many Republicans in the State legislature are supporting the Virginia gun control proposed laws ???They are trying to make any wishy-washy RINOs feel better about betraying their voter base, Talk to Peter Breen and Chris Nybo, as them how it's working out so far,Yep, and IL GOP Senate leadership (Pat Brady) is who funded gun control groups to push ads for those politicians https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/08/08/all-republicans-friends-of-the-2nd-amendment-think-again/ Hmm, SteveTA, you are usually spot on. You are getting your spineless milquetoast both-sides-of-the-fence Bradys confused. IL GOP Senate Leader Bill Brady funded gun control groups to try to keep his RINOs in office. Ex-IL GOP Committee leader Pat Brady ran campaigns for RINOs like Sen Mark Kirk and semi's like John McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodoun da Vinci Posted January 2, 2020 at 06:14 PM Share Posted January 2, 2020 at 06:14 PM Anybody else think it's getting time for a National 2A Sanctuary Organization? Seems to me that we'd all have a lot more clout if the 2A Sanctuaries in VA, IL, AZ and others would form together and organize Nationally. Time yet? VooDoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted January 3, 2020 at 01:54 PM Share Posted January 3, 2020 at 01:54 PM Long past time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 3, 2020 at 02:27 PM Share Posted January 3, 2020 at 02:27 PM Northam funding gun confiscation squads in the budget https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/virginia-gov-ralph-northam-wants-to-hire-18-assault-weapons-ban-support-employees/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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