Ricky Two Guns Posted February 28, 2018 at 02:11 PM Share Posted February 28, 2018 at 02:11 PM Maybe we should all just move and we could be Texas Carry or Indiana Carry or fill in the blank Carry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capotwosix Posted February 28, 2018 at 03:15 PM Share Posted February 28, 2018 at 03:15 PM What is wrong with body armor?Easier to control people. The 2nd is to ensure a free and prosperous nation. Rahm wants the least resistance possible while imposing his tyranny on the American citizens stuck in Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capotwosix Posted February 28, 2018 at 03:18 PM Share Posted February 28, 2018 at 03:18 PM It always seems that these laws coming from the Chicago democrats whittle down people's ability to help themselves and create more dependency on their governmentThat’s the point. End goal is socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted February 28, 2018 at 06:17 PM Share Posted February 28, 2018 at 06:17 PM I don't own body armor. I'd like the option to own it if i feel like it. Unfortunately, I don't see body armor as a protected right the same way firearms are. This will be interesting to watch. If they can't ban body armor and bump stocks, my guess is they'll have zero chance of passing an "assault weapons" ban or a magazine capacity limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted February 28, 2018 at 08:20 PM Share Posted February 28, 2018 at 08:20 PM This is a test. Based on the way today's session is going, I'm assuming bills will pass both houses to force Gov. Rauner's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlbruin Posted August 17, 2018 at 10:06 PM Share Posted August 17, 2018 at 10:06 PM These people are wacko. They won't protect our kids in school. They won't let us protect our kids in school either. People say body armor and think about some felon kitted up like a SEAL. Instead they`re banning a protective plate in a book bag that helps should the kids have to hide under their desks while law enforcement hides behind their cars.Do you or anyone you know own or use a bulletproof backpack. I am working on a story and would like to interview you. Please email krlbruin@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlbruin Posted August 17, 2018 at 10:07 PM Share Posted August 17, 2018 at 10:07 PM I have a back pack insert that’s in my kids school backpack. So they are against him living. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProI am working on a story about bulletproof backpacks and would like to interview you. Can you please email me so I can explain krlbruin@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted August 18, 2018 at 02:15 AM Share Posted August 18, 2018 at 02:15 AM Krlbruin...I sent you a PM. Probably best to reach out to Molly B our spokesperson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted September 1, 2018 at 01:41 PM Share Posted September 1, 2018 at 01:41 PM Out West a group of citizens opposed what they believed to be illegal action by the Federal government, and assembled in force, with arms to resist arrest for their actions. Numerous supporters joined them, also armed, and the Federal LEOs backed off. While the instigators of the action were later arrested, all charges were dropped eventually. Are there enough supporters of decency and rationality in Chicago to organize and refuse to obey irrational and unConstitutional restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms? Would it not be a beautiful thing to see a large group of armed citizens telling the authorities that they will not tolerate the tyranny of Emanuel and his minions, and will resist if need be with force of arms? Would the CPD force the issue, or back off as the FBI did with the Bundys out West? During the Jim Crow era there were occasions when armed black men refused to obey the gun control laws of their state which sought to disarm them, and authorities backed down. Maybe the time is coming for people today to be willing to do the same here in Illinois. Or they can just complain and die a death of a thousand cuts, bit by bit until their freedom is totally gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted September 1, 2018 at 04:50 PM Share Posted September 1, 2018 at 04:50 PM I don't own body armor. I'd like the option to own it if i feel like it. Unfortunately, I don't see body armor as a protected right the same way firearms are. This will be interesting to watch. If they can't ban body armor and bump stocks, my guess is they'll have zero chance of passing an "assault weapons" ban or a magazine capacity limit.Arms, Armor:Same root word. Knives are protected under the 2nd, and they're not firearms either.Both knives and protective clothing will stand up to judicial review, when it gets to that highest venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Badger Posted September 2, 2018 at 11:31 AM Share Posted September 2, 2018 at 11:31 AM Out West a group of citizens opposed what they believed to be illegal action by the Federal government, and assembled in force, with arms to resist arrest for their actions. Numerous supporters joined them, also armed, and the Federal LEOs backed off. While the instigators of the action were later arrested, all charges were dropped eventually. Are there enough supporters of decency and rationality in Chicago to organize and refuse to obey irrational and unConstitutional restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms? Would it not be a beautiful thing to see a large group of armed citizens telling the authorities that they will not tolerate the tyranny of Emanuel and his minions, and will resist if need be with force of arms? Would the CPD force the issue, or back off as the FBI did with the Bundys out West? During the Jim Crow era there were occasions when armed black men refused to obey the gun control laws of their state which sought to disarm them, and authorities backed down. Maybe the time is coming for people today to be willing to do the same here in Illinois. Or they can just complain and die a death of a thousand cuts, bit by bit until their freedom is totally gone. Send us an invite to the body armor parade. A way to approach this in a non confrontational and civilly disobedient manner would be similar to “concealed is concealed”. Unless you are a paranoid mall ninja kitted up for Armageddon, I think that discrete armor won’t attract a lot of attention. If you want to play “Army”, that’s another manner. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Destro Posted September 3, 2018 at 02:53 AM Share Posted September 3, 2018 at 02:53 AM I don't own any body armor, just some AR500 targets I haven't shot at yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted September 3, 2018 at 01:03 PM Share Posted September 3, 2018 at 01:03 PM The courts have a long history of supporting the legislature in protecting the violent criminal from potential harm from his victim.Look at the long list of prohibited defensive items listed in the UUW statute.When Mary Shepard won her federal case why didn't she also win the chose to carry brass knuckles.The fox has guarding the chicken coup for many decades. The well fed fox keeps showing and protecting his dominate evil power.We keep electing these same tyrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmurph44 Posted September 3, 2018 at 01:05 PM Share Posted September 3, 2018 at 01:05 PM Out West a group of citizens opposed what they believed to be illegal action by the Federal government, and assembled in force, with arms to resist arrest for their actions. Numerous supporters joined them, also armed, and the Federal LEOs backed off. While the instigators of the action were later arrested, all charges were dropped eventually. Are there enough supporters of decency and rationality in Chicago to organize and refuse to obey irrational and unConstitutional restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms? Would it not be a beautiful thing to see a large group of armed citizens telling the authorities that they will not tolerate the tyranny of Emanuel and his minions, and will resist if need be with force of arms? Would the CPD force the issue, or back off as the FBI did with the Bundys out West? During the Jim Crow era there were occasions when armed black men refused to obey the gun control laws of their state which sought to disarm them, and authorities backed down. Maybe the time is coming for people today to be willing to do the same here in Illinois. Or they can just complain and die a death of a thousand cuts, bit by bit until their freedom is totally gone.Send us an invite to the body armor parade. A way to approach this in a non confrontational and civilly disobedient manner would be similar to “concealed is concealed”. Unless you are a paranoid mall ninja kitted up for Armageddon, I think that discrete armor won’t attract a lot of attention. If you want to play “Army”, that’s another manner. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk lololololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted September 3, 2018 at 02:02 PM Share Posted September 3, 2018 at 02:02 PM Out West a group of citizens opposed what they believed to be illegal action by the Federal government, and assembled in force, with arms to resist arrest for their actions. Numerous supporters joined them, also armed, and the Federal LEOs backed off. While the instigators of the action were later arrested, all charges were dropped eventually. Are there enough supporters of decency and rationality in Chicago to organize and refuse to obey irrational and unConstitutional restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms? Would it not be a beautiful thing to see a large group of armed citizens telling the authorities that they will not tolerate the tyranny of Emanuel and his minions, and will resist if need be with force of arms? Would the CPD force the issue, or back off as the FBI did with the Bundys out West? During the Jim Crow era there were occasions when armed black men refused to obey the gun control laws of their state which sought to disarm them, and authorities backed down. Maybe the time is coming for people today to be willing to do the same here in Illinois. Or they can just complain and die a death of a thousand cuts, bit by bit until their freedom is totally gone.The government disengaged for one simple reason.....they didn't want a repeat of Ruby Ridge or Waco. Those things led directly to McVeigh, and the rise of the militia groups. I watched as the militias "pushed back" the federal government. One big group of people, massed together makes a fantastic target for a single Apache gunship. The federal government has had us by the shorthairs since the 30's. Once full autos were regulated, and our military technology grew, that very quickly made any sort of insurrection moot. It you're "kitting up" to fight the government, all you're doing is cosplay. Nothing wrong with owning plates and plate carriers if you own them for SHTF. Before you say that our troops will not follow unconstitutional orders...think back to hurricane Katrina when the National Guard went door to door confiscating firearms, and not a single person resisted lol. The only thing we have going for us is the threat of insurrection, and the effects it would have on the economy, if, and that's a big IF, enough gun owners actually rose up to fight. The number that actually would, is a far smaller number than the people who say they would online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted September 5, 2018 at 04:02 PM Share Posted September 5, 2018 at 04:02 PM I want to point out as well, numerous fire departments have body armor available for use in an active shooter. This law would make that illegal. Many politicians also wear body armor. This law would make it illegal for them as well. Perhaps we should support it. I'd pay money to see the mayor or aldermen in Chicago prosecuted for breaking this law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted September 5, 2018 at 05:23 PM Share Posted September 5, 2018 at 05:23 PM I want to point out as well, numerous fire departments have body armor available for use in an active shooter. This law would make that illegal. Many politicians also wear body armor. This law would make it illegal for them as well. Perhaps we should support it. I'd pay money to see the mayor or aldermen in Chicago prosecuted for breaking this law.Never going to happen. The pols are above the law and much more important then us and their lives are much more valuable then ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted September 5, 2018 at 08:47 PM Share Posted September 5, 2018 at 08:47 PM This bill is dead on an Illinois level so no point in talking about it. Before it getting killed they did add an exception for backpacks and VIP's (politicians). Thank your local gun lobby and gun enthusiasts for killing it (was rolled into the Bauer bill), Todd V, ISRA, ASC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackjack998 Posted September 25, 2018 at 09:36 PM Share Posted September 25, 2018 at 09:36 PM This bill is dead on an Illinois level so no point in talking about it. Before it getting killed they did add an exception for backpacks and VIP's (politicians). Thank your local gun lobby and gun enthusiasts for killing it (was rolled into the Bauer bill), Todd V, ISRA, ASC. Hey sorry to necro this thread but this means it's over right? No more voting anywhere on this? Body armor is still fine? Assuming you aren't a felon of course, like before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted September 25, 2018 at 10:06 PM Share Posted September 25, 2018 at 10:06 PM This bill is dead on an Illinois level so no point in talking about it.Before it getting killed they did add an exception for backpacks and VIP's (politicians). Thank your local gun lobby and gun enthusiasts for killing it (was rolled into the Bauer bill), Todd V, ISRA, ASC. Hey sorry to necro this thread but this means it's over right? No more voting anywhere on this? Body armor is still fine? Assuming you aren't a felon of course, like before.I suppose about anything is possible in Madigan land but its pretty unlikely at the state level. Chicago passed but deferred enforcement while state level would have to get out of committees, pass both chambers and be signed by governor...and there are very few days left in session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted September 26, 2018 at 06:14 PM Share Posted September 26, 2018 at 06:14 PM I'd support language that prohibited it's use during the commission of a felony - but IL already has that, along with bans on convicted felons owning or possessing guns, and murder, a fact that they Media-Entertainment Complex and Rahmfuhrer seemed to fail to mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted September 27, 2018 at 05:48 AM Share Posted September 27, 2018 at 05:48 AM I'd support language that prohibited it's use during the commission of a felony - but IL already has that, along with bans on convicted felons owning or possessing guns, and murder, a fact that they Media-Entertainment Complex and Rahmfuhrer seemed to fail to mention. You forgot my umlaut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted September 27, 2018 at 09:25 AM Share Posted September 27, 2018 at 09:25 AM Der Rahmfuhrer huddles in his Rahmfurhrer bunker with his trusted subordinates, insistent that the war could be won! Dr. Ford will save Chicago! She will claim that she was gang-shot by 50 concealed carriers the very day the first concealed carry licenses were issued! She had affidavits produced by Himmler from 10 people she told all about it last night. Stalin ... er, Taxwinkle ... ok, same thing ... will never take him alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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