tommyd78 Posted April 27, 2016 at 11:40 PM Share Posted April 27, 2016 at 11:40 PM Plan on going there this season can't find if it is posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POAT54 Posted April 27, 2016 at 11:58 PM Share Posted April 27, 2016 at 11:58 PM I think it is under ; (430 ILCS 66/65) Sec. 65. Prohibited areas.(17) Any stadium, arena, or the real property or parking area under the control of a stadium, arena, or any collegiate or professional sporting event.Professional sporting event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted April 28, 2016 at 12:05 AM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 12:05 AM Oh gosh I didn't even think of this - I used to race and spectate there all time time.I hope they're not posted! (@poat54) I don't think that applies - I think (17) applies to your Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey etc... I don't think "drag racing" is one of such types of "sports"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kster Posted April 28, 2016 at 12:07 AM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 12:07 AM and there's no building "real property". it's just grand stands and "grounds" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted April 28, 2016 at 12:40 AM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 12:40 AM The dirt the stands are on is "real property" as opposed to personalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangrel Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:08 AM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:08 AM Oh gosh I didn't even think of this - I used to race and spectate there all time time. I hope they're not posted! (@poat54) I don't think that applies - I think (17) applies to your Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey etc... I don't think "drag racing" is one of such types of "sports"...I feel your pain, man. I am a racing fan too. But where in the law do you see anything that defines "professional sports" as baseball, football, hockey, etc. I think the racers would beg to differ with you if you tried to say they are not professional athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:23 AM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:23 AM eg.Peoria TT AMA Grand National Dirt RacePrivately Owned.State Posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:30 AM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:30 AM All the Chicagoland Speedway tracks are posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:36 AM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:36 AM That got me to thinking, what about illegal sporting events, like street fighting? I suppose it is legal to carry if the sporting event really does not exist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDM Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:47 AM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:47 AM To be honest I carried there. It's privately owned. You don't go through any signs and I never saw anything posted so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyd78 Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:49 AM Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 01:49 AM Well whats the alcohol situation? Can you bring your own or concessions? If they allow that then I will leave my weapon at home anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted April 28, 2016 at 02:01 AM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 02:01 AM Well whats the alcohol situation?Methanol for the dragsters.Ethanol for the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyd78 Posted April 28, 2016 at 02:27 AM Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 02:27 AM Well whats the alcohol situation? Methanol for the dragsters.Ethanol for the people.No moonshine for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted April 28, 2016 at 08:39 AM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 08:39 AM Oh gosh I didn't even think of this - I used to race and spectate there all time time. I hope they're not posted! (@poat54) I don't think that applies - I think (17) applies to your Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey etc... I don't think "drag racing" is one of such types of "sports"...I feel your pain, man. I am a racing fan too. But where in the law do you see anything that defines "professional sports" as baseball, football, hockey, etc. I think the racers would beg to differ with you if you tried to say they are not professional athletes. Oh no, I agree with you completely - and trust me I thought about that as I posted it; but I posted it thinking from the pure viewpoint of our legislators... I will not refute that racing is indeed a "sport", and also will not deny there are "professional" racers too! Especially going off of the verbiage "stadium", "arena" - racing doesn't really require a "stadium" or an "arena" (sure they have the term "real property", but I believe only as a "coverall" or "catch all")... Also as I stated; I've "ran" at byron more times than I can count! So I'm not merely a spectator, I myself "race". I probably should have pursued it "professionally" - I LOVE speed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted April 28, 2016 at 08:44 AM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 08:44 AM Well, if they are posted (Byron) maybe it's legal to carry at "The Grove" - Great Lakes Dragway in Union Grove, WI - Or US 41 in (Morocco) Indiana... Please do keep us posted and let us know if Byron is or is not posted! (thanks!) Those are the only 3 tracks I've been to, and know of, in the "immediate area"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm Posted April 28, 2016 at 02:18 PM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 02:18 PM I think the grandstand may meet the generic definition of a stadium. If NASCAR is a sport, any other vehicle race where people go to watch it is probably a sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted April 28, 2016 at 02:42 PM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 02:42 PM People still go to Byron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted April 28, 2016 at 04:50 PM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 04:50 PM Well whats the alcohol situation? Can you bring your own or concessions? If they allow that then I will leave my weapon at home anyways. Because guns automatically become dangerous when in close proximity to alcohol? Back to the topic at hand, I love how a simple question (Is it posted?) turns into a discussion about whether or not it should be posted, with various people trying to justify their reasoning for why they think it should fall into one of the prohibited categories. It's obvious from the discussion that it's not an obviously prohibited location, so again, the only question that matters is the one that was posed... is it posted? I don't understand why so many people here try so hard to make something fit into a category so they can claim it should be posted. Am I really in the minority here in that I just want to carry on with my life, now with the added bonus of being able to carry a concealed handgun? It really is that simple to me. For example... Tonight I'll be shooting in a weekly pool league that I belong to. The bar we're shooting at tonight has a small kitchen (the occasional burger or personal pizza is ordered), 2 or 3 "gaming" machines, a jukebox and a pool table... it is not posted. Should it be? Don't know... don't care... not my responsibility to figure it out. All I care is that it's not currently posted. And to add to the insanity, I'll likely have a beer or two while I'm there. Playing pool, drinking, and carrying. It's a wonder I'm still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted April 28, 2016 at 05:17 PM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 05:17 PM Well whats the alcohol situation? Can you bring your own or concessions? If they allow that then I will leave my weapon at home anyways. Because guns automatically become dangerous when in close proximity to alcohol? Back to the topic at hand, I love how a simple question (Is it posted?) turns into a discussion about whether or not it should be posted, with various people trying to justify their reasoning for why they think it should fall into one of the prohibited categories. It's obvious from the discussion that it's not an obviously prohibited location, so again, the only question that matters is the one that was posed... is it posted? I don't understand why so many people here try so hard to make something fit into a category so they can claim it should be posted. Am I really in the minority here in that I just want to carry on with my life, now with the added bonus of being able to carry a concealed handgun? It really is that simple to me. For example... Tonight I'll be shooting in a weekly pool league that I belong to. The bar we're shooting at tonight has a small kitchen (the occasional burger or personal pizza is ordered), 2 or 3 "gaming" machines, a jukebox and a pool table... it is not posted. Should it be? Don't know... don't care... not my responsibility to figure it out. All I care is that it's not currently posted. And to add to the insanity, I'll likely have a beer or two while I'm there. Playing pool, drinking, and carrying. It's a wonder I'm still alive.This. Also the OP should get in his car now and find out and tell all of us and end this thread. We have to know as the suspense is killing us. Pun intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted April 28, 2016 at 06:07 PM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 06:07 PM People still go to Byron? YES. (tho I havent been back to byron for a couple of years)Heck..I would likely be going this weekend for a few trips down the track in 'black bird' if I didnt have to take the 'silver bullet' into my local speed shop for a new stage iv transmission....(A fellow car nut invited me for this weekend) Everything is already built...the Vigilante TC is back from PI after being refreshed and restalled. She gets dropped off this weekend and goes up on the lift on monday. Weeee!!! (at Byron)http://www.doodnet.com/images/doodspeedbyron1.jpghttp://www.doodnet.com/images/doodspeedbyron2.jpgAs for it being posted...I dunno...I have only gone there for T&T's (test and tunes)...Would such a day be considered an 'event' that would prohibit carrying? (shrug) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blck10th Posted April 28, 2016 at 06:13 PM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 06:13 PM People still go to Byron? It's the only place I can race that is close. 66 frowns on no cage in a car. I refuse to cut up my street car. 100% functional power everything and a/c. Byron lets me bust off mid to low 10's all day. I drive there swap tires and drive home. Btw he alcohol situation is BYOB. They do not sell at the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksninew Posted April 28, 2016 at 08:10 PM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 08:10 PM I was at Union Grove last October and was disappointed to see that it was posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyB Posted April 28, 2016 at 08:42 PM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 08:42 PM People still go to Byron? YES. (tho I havent been back to byron for a couple of years)Heck..I would likely be going this weekend for a few trips down the track in 'black bird' if I didnt have to take the 'silver bullet' into my local speed shop for a new stage iv transmission....(A fellow car nut invited me for this weekend) Everything is already built...the Vigilante TC is back from PI after being refreshed and restalled. She gets dropped off this weekend and goes up on the lift on monday. Weeee!!! (at Byron)http://www.doodnet.com/images/doodspeedbyron1.jpghttp://www.doodnet.com/images/doodspeedbyron2.jpgAs for it being posted...I dunno...I have only gone there for T&T's (test and tunes)...Would such a day be considered an 'event' that would prohibit carrying? (shrug) That car looks familiar. Heres my old car at 41. 088 by RoyBelluomini, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted April 28, 2016 at 09:12 PM Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 09:12 PM People still go to Byron? YES. (tho I havent been back to byron for a couple of years)Heck..I would likely be going this weekend for a few trips down the track in 'black bird' if I didnt have to take the 'silver bullet' into my local speed shop for a new stage iv transmission....(A fellow car nut invited me for this weekend) Everything is already built...the Vigilante TC is back from PI after being refreshed and restalled. She gets dropped off this weekend and goes up on the lift on monday. Weeee!!! (at Byron)http://www.doodnet.com/images/doodspeedbyron1.jpghttp://www.doodnet.com/images/doodspeedbyron2.jpgAs for it being posted...I dunno...I have only gone there for T&T's (test and tunes)...Would such a day be considered an 'event' that would prohibit carrying? (shrug) That car looks familiar. Heres my old car at 41. 088 by RoyBelluomini, on Flickr Errr...ya...looks like some kind of fbody eventLook like you had a good photographer on that day. Oh...look what I found.http://doodnet.com/mfba/mfba052403/mfba052403-087.jpghttp://doodnet.com/mfba/mfba052403/mfba052403-082.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyd78 Posted April 28, 2016 at 10:58 PM Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 at 10:58 PM I have never been to a drag race thought it might be fun to check out I'm not going to carry if I have a few beers while there. I'm sure I would be fine to carry and have a few but I never do that. If I drink the gun stays home.Why ask that its posted? Just wondering so if people want to make a discussion out of it whats the big deal. Sorry I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted April 29, 2016 at 12:25 AM Share Posted April 29, 2016 at 12:25 AM Sorry I asked.Don't be sorry.We need a thread like this once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyd78 Posted April 29, 2016 at 12:56 AM Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 at 12:56 AM Ok I emailed (which I should have done in the first place)and got a response already. Which said "Good question but I would suggest to leave it at home something that I want to find out in the future we are controlled a lot by insurance regulations hopefully this makes sense.Thanks." In other words he doesn't know. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted April 29, 2016 at 04:56 AM Share Posted April 29, 2016 at 04:56 AM Never ask them if they are Posted or not. Bad idea. Now you have put the thought into their heads and they could Post because you brought it up. Better to go and find out and not bring it up to them. Like hey do you know your sign isn't compliant? Don't do it. Leave well enough alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted April 29, 2016 at 06:12 AM Share Posted April 29, 2016 at 06:12 AM Like hey do you know your sign isn't compliant? Don't do it. Leave well enough alone.Yea, the next guy who sees the non compliant sign will thank you for not telling them.Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted April 29, 2016 at 10:03 AM Share Posted April 29, 2016 at 10:03 AM I was at Union Grove last October and was disappointed to see that it was posted. Dang, guess that rules that out How about US 41 dragway in Indiana, anyone know about that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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