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I think what is happening in France is proof yet again of what Alexander Tyler said, a democracy will only exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. Or stated another way, what Alexis de Tocqueville said - a democracy will endure until politicians discover that they can bribe the public with the public's own money.

The problem with these schemes though is what Margaret Thatcher said, that eventually they run out of other people's money.
Illinois is going to have a similar problem, when politicians try to raise taxes people will simply leave. When the government finally breaks down at all levels and is unable to provide basic public services like police protection, road repair and garbage collection, the remaining residents will riot and destroy until some governmental body like the federal government comes to appease them.
No government can simultaneously give away free stuff and not tax the majority of its people. The lie that there is this tremendous treasure that can be taken from the wealthy is eventually laid bare.
Hugo Chávez told Venezuelans that he was going to take the riches from the wealthy and share it with all Venezuelans, but it was just all made-up bull****. The riches only existed in their envious minds, not in reality and now the country is ruined.
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Yep, we are inching closer to the day when civil disobedience will be the reaction here. We applaud tax cuts and then borrow a trillion dollars to make up the shortfall. We allow a human wave of immigrants to overwhelm our social safety net as our citizen economic issues increase. There are not unlimited resources to continue this insanity, but few are listening.
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I just heard from my friend in Paris he wears his yellow jacket in the car so people don't bother him and he's going to Ikea today because he's really worried about what he see's is an ideal time for a muslim attack (his words) this weekend. The news doesn't report they have acid attacks almost daily now and it's not adults on adults it's on children and by children.

CA tried to repeal the 50 cent a year tax increase on gas and it failed so in January maybe we will see yellow jackets there...

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I only mentioned this not as an endorsement of any violence, (there has been some violence and destruction of property) but mostly it involved more protesting, blocking traffic, and civil disobedience. It is now spreading to other European nations as a symbol of protest against the EU and over taxation and control exercised by the EU and other governments. It seems the vest is becoming a symbol of protest of everyday people against large government.

 

In Illinois we have taken the largely symbolic step of "sanctuary counties" and it sends a good and symbolic message to the state gov. But there is no substitute for large groups protesting and marching, practicing peaceful demonstration and nonviolent civil disobedience. We are looking at massive gun control and tax increases in Illinois. Nothing wrong with peacefully protesting said actions.

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I only mentioned this not as an endorsement of any violence, (there has been some violence and destruction of property) but mostly it involved more protesting, blocking traffic, and civil disobedience. It is now spreading to other European nations as a symbol of protest against the EU and over taxation and control exercised by the EU and other governments. It seems the vest is becoming a symbol of protest of everyday people against large government.

 

In Illinois we have taken the largely symbolic step of "sanctuary counties" and it sends a good and symbolic message to the state gov. But there is no substitute for large groups protesting and marching, practicing peaceful demonstration and nonviolent civil disobedience. We are looking at massive gun control and tax increases in Illinois. Nothing wrong with peacefully protesting said actions.

 

They toasted 131 cars the first day, that sounds a wee bit more then a little civil disobedient.

 

My plan for Chicago was always 20 guys with roofing nails in their pockets with holes distributed around the city streets, that's where "little" stops for me.

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And in other cities and provinces of France and other countries no violence, police and firefighters showing solidarity with protesters. Plus the vests are cheap, go with yellow gadsen and igold.

 

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/06/rebellion-spreads-yellow-jackets-plan-action-across-netherlands/story shows spreading of the symbol in protests and calls for non-violent protest.

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I just heard from my friend in Paris he wears his yellow jacket in the car so people don't bother him and he's going to Ikea today because he's really worried about what he see's is an ideal time for a muslim attack (his words) this weekend. The news doesn't report they have acid attacks almost daily now and it's not adults on adults it's on children and by children.

CA tried to repeal the 50 cent a year tax increase on gas and it failed so in January maybe we will see yellow jackets there...

 

Look what else is going on in Paris. They probably need that gas tax and more to support the new arrivals.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=cfa_1514168481

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The downfall of almost every nation - be it Democracy, Republic, monarchy, communist, or other - follows a five step regression:

1. Outrage

2. Civil Disobedience

3. Civil Disorder

4. Armed Rebellion

5. Revolution.

France is the birthplace of modern Republics, but has general fumbled badly in the transitions.

 

Warning: the one entity that universally drops into virtually every power vacuum: Tyrants.

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Before we see anymore derogatory comments about the French, I'd remind all here that were it not for the French we would be saluting union jacks. I for one am eternally grateful.

And if not for the Americans, the French would be speaking German - twice.

 

 

Both are correct and true.

 

It should also be noted, that if a campaign is begun where gun rights advocates start wearing yellow vests in Illinois, the state of Illinois is just warped enough to put forth a bill that would require that all those, while carrying, wear these yellow vests.

 

Our IGold shirts are our "yellow vests". :laugh:

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I keep seeing more and more videos of these Yellow Vest on 'independent' news networks, those people are not just 'protesting' so they can loot and steal like many do in the US, instead it's clear those protesters/rioters have simply had enough and I don't believe for one second that they are going away anytime soon until change happens over there.

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The downfall of almost every nation - be it Democracy, Republic, monarchy, communist, or other - follows a five step regression:

1. Outrage

2. Civil Disobedience

3. Civil Disorder

4. Armed Rebellion

5. Revolution.

France is the birthplace of modern Republics, but has general fumbled badly in the transitions.

Warning: the one entity that universally drops into virtually every power vacuum: Tyrants.

The exceptionid the Amercan war for indepence.

Though it may not be an exception because our founding fathets did not over through king George the 3.

Revolutions never provide the desired answer.

The french have suffered greatly under socialism. Every ponzi scheme fails but until then it grestly enriches those on top.

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