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#1 Monty80

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 08:49 AM

I thought these were being sat on because of the motion to reconsider. Anyone know what's going on?

From the NRA-ILA:

Last Thursday the Illinois state Senate voted to concur Senate Bill 337, which would establish a firearm registry and shut down your local gun stores with onerous red tape and regulations, as well as Senate Bill 3256, which would expand the 72 hour waiting period to all firearms. These two bills will now head to Governor Bruce Rauners desk, where they will join House Bill 2354, which would allow Second Amendment rights to be revoked without due process. Please contact Governor Rauner and urge him to VETO SB 337, SB 3256, and HB 2354. Click the Take Action button below and call 217-782-0244 to contact Governor Rauner.


Senate Bill 337, as amended by Representative Kathleen Willis (D-77), was concurred by the Senate with a vote of 35-20. It would direct the state police to create an electronic transaction form for firearm transfers, which would amount to a registry.

Senate Bill 3256, as amended by Representative Jonathan Carroll (D-57), was concurred by the Senate with a vote of 40-10. It would also expand the 72 hour waiting period to all firearms.

House Bill 2354, sponsored by Rep. Kathleen Willis (D-77), was passed by the Senate with a vote of 43-11. It would allow for the issuance of protective orders to infringe on Second Amendment rights based on third party allegations with little, if any, real evidence and limited due process for the respondent. Hearings for the orders would be ex parte, where the respondent is not present to challenge the accuser and defend against allegations made against them.

Further, for truly dangerous individuals, this bill does nothing to incapacitate the subjects of the orders, as there is no requirement that they receive mental health treatment. Again, please click the Take Action button above and call 217-782-0244 to urge Governor Rauner to VETO SB 337, SB 3256, and HB 2354.

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Edited by Monty80, 04 June 2018 - 08:51 AM.

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  • 29 Jan 2015 - Appealed FOID denial
  • 07 July 2015 - Received FOID card
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Posted 04 June 2018 - 08:57 AM

I just got the same email. Either the NRA is way outta the loop, or I'm missing something. Cullerton's motion to reconsider SB337 still stands I presume???


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:05 AM

http://ilga.gov/legi...77&SessionID=91

 

Status page says the Motion to Reconsider is still the most recent action.



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Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:06 AM

Exactly. The bill status on both of them still says: 5/31/2018 Senate Motion Filed to Reconsider Vote. Maybe they haven't updated IGLA page or the NRA-ILA jumped the gun?
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Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:17 AM

The email sounds accurate to me.

 

The bills they mention did pass both houses and will be sent (not "have been sent") to the Governor.  The motions to reconsider just delay things.  When they return in the Fall the motions will be withdrawn and the bills will be sent.


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 11:23 AM

Called the Governor's office this morning asking for a veto of these bills. If every FOID holder made a call it would really be something.


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 11:27 PM

Ok, I JUST checked those three Bill statuses.

 

SB337 is stalled with Motion to Reconsider  on 5/31/18 by John Cullerton (Mr. President)

    5/30/2018    Senate    Senate Concurs
  5/31/2018    Senate    Added as Chief Co-Sponsor Sen. John J. Cullerton
  5/31/2018    Senate    Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Kwame Raoul
  5/31/2018    Senate    Motion Filed to Reconsider Vote Sen. John J. Cullerton

 

SB3256

 5/31/2018    Senate    Motion Filed to Reconsider Vote Sen. Elgie R. Sims, Jr.
  6/4/2018    Senate    Motion Withdrawn Sen. Elgie R. Sims, Jr.
  6/4/2018    Senate    Passed Both Houses

 

HB2354

   5/30/2018    Senate    Third Reading - Passed; 043-011-000
  5/30/2018    House    Passed Both Houses

 

So SB3256 and HB2354  can be sent to the Governor, but IDK if there are any timers on it.

 

for example:

SB1657:

2/28/2018    House    Third Reading - Standard Debate - Passed 064-052-000
  2/28/2018    Senate    Passed Both Houses
  2/28/2018    House    Added Alternate Co-Sponsor Rep. Carol Ammons
  3/1/2018        Senate    Sent to the Governor
  3/13/2018    Senate    Governor Vetoed

  3/13/2018    Senate    Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Elgie R. Sims, Jr.
  4/10/2018    Senate    Placed Calendar Total Veto April 11, 2018
  4/17/2018    Senate    Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Toi W. Hutchinson
  4/26/2018    Senate    Total Veto Stands

 

So, in conclusion SB3256 and HB2354 can be sent to the Governor at any time

(I'm not aware of any clocks on time between "Passed Both Houses"  and "Sent to the Governor".

 

and doing so starts the Governor's 60 day clock.

the 15 day veto clocks won't start until that chamber

(SB's go back to the Senate FIRST, HB's go back to the House FIIRST) is called to order.


Edited by markthesignguy, 05 June 2018 - 12:08 AM.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 05:39 AM

Called the Governor's office this morning asking for a veto of these bills. If every FOID holder made a call it would really be something.

I did as well.  It's bad enough we have the FOID... these bills are absolutely asinine. 


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 06:16 AM

So, in conclusion SB3256 and HB2354 can be sent to the Governor at any time
(I'm not aware of any clocks on time between "Passed Both Houses" and "Sent to the Governor".

I thought there was a 30 day window to send but I could certainly be wrong. And being recessed may have additional impacts.

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SECTION 9. VETO PROCEDURE
(a) Every bill passed by the General Assembly shall be
presented to the Governor within 30 calendar days after its
passage. The foregoing requirement shall be judicially
enforceable. If the Governor approves the bill, he shall sign
it and it shall become law.

http://www.ilga.gov/...on/lrb/con4.htm

Edited by InterestedBystander, 05 June 2018 - 06:20 AM.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:06 AM

I just re-checked these three bill's statuses:

 

SB337 Gun Dealer Licensing - Various   is STILL stalled with Motion to Reconsider  on 5/31/18 by John Cullerton (Mr. President)

  5/30/2018    Senate    Senate Concurs
  5/31/2018    Senate    Added as Chief Co-Sponsor Sen. John J. Cullerton
  5/31/2018    Senate    Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Kwame Raoul
  5/31/2018    Senate    Motion Filed to Reconsider Vote Sen. John J. Cullerton

 

 

HB2354 Lethal Order of Protection  still waiting to be sent to the Governor.

   5/30/2018    Senate    Third Reading - Passed; 043-011-000
  5/30/2018    House    Passed Both Houses

(IF there is a 30 day rule, using May 30 as a start date, 30 days is Friday, June 29, 2018)

 

SB3256 (72 Hour Waiting Period/Repeals Nonresident Exemption)   Sent to the Governor

  5/31/2018  Senate    Motion Filed to Reconsider Vote Sen. Elgie R. Sims, Jr.
  6/4/2018    Senate    Motion Withdrawn Sen. Elgie R. Sims, Jr.
  6/4/2018    Senate    Passed Both Houses

  6/6/2018    Senate    Sent to the Governor

( using June 6,2018 as a start date, 60 days is Sunday, August 5, 2018)


Edited by markthesignguy, 08 June 2018 - 11:12 AM.

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 04:08 PM

Rep. Andersson response...(not running again, so not too much recourse)

Senate Bill 337 is simply a policy bill - it does nothing to jeopardize any of our second amendment rights, which I have strongly supported and will continue to support.

All Senate Bill 337 does is reduce illegally trafficked guns from entering our communities. I am in favor of any bill that will keep people safe from gun violence by making sure guns do not end up in the hands of the wrong people.

This is not a Republican issue, it is not a Democrat issue, this is a people issue.

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 04:55 PM

Rep. Andersson response...(not running again, so not too much recourse)

Senate Bill 337 is simply a policy bill - it does nothing to jeopardize any of our second amendment rights, which I have strongly supported and will continue to support.

All Senate Bill 337 does is reduce illegally trafficked guns from entering our communities. I am in favor of any bill that will keep people safe from gun violence by making sure guns do not end up in the hands of the wrong people.

This is not a Republican issue, it is not a Democrat issue, this is a people issue.

Regards,

Steve Andersson

 

 

Yea, there is a reason he isn't running again.

 

That is a total BS answer 


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Posted 12 June 2018 - 10:48 AM

Rep. Andersson response...(not running again, so not too much recourse)

Senate Bill 337 is simply a policy bill - it does nothing to jeopardize any of our second amendment rights, which I have strongly supported and will continue to support.

All Senate Bill 337 does is reduce illegally trafficked guns from entering our communities. I am in favor of any bill that will keep people safe from gun violence by making sure guns do not end up in the hands of the wrong people.

This is not a Republican issue, it is not a Democrat issue, this is a people issue.

Regards,

Steve Andersson

You should educate the doofus.  Educate him that the registration of private sales is a direct infringement, that potentially leads to worse.  Then educate him, that the rest is tailor made to shut down gun stores. it's admitted real purpose, stated in committee.  AS SUCH, if there is no where to buy a gun, that is effectively the same thing as banning all guns, AKA INFRINGEMENT. . 


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:11 AM

June 13:
no change in these three bill's statuses:
 
SB337 Gun Dealer Licensing - Various   is STILL stalled with Motion to Reconsider  on 5/31/18 by John Cullerton (Mr. President)
 5/31/2018    Senate    Motion Filed to Reconsider Vote Sen. John J. Cullerton
 
 
HB2354 Lethal Order of Protection   still waiting to be sent to the Governor.
5/30/2018    House    Passed Both Houses
(IF there is a 30 day rule, using May 30 as a start date, 30 days is Friday, June 29, 2018)
 
SB3256 (72 Hour Waiting Period/Repeals Nonresident Exemption)   Sent to the Governor
  6/6/2018    Senate    Sent to the Governor
( using June 6,2018 as a start date, 60 days is Sunday, August 5, 2018)


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:05 AM

June 13:
no change in these three bill's statuses:
 SB337 Gun Dealer Licensing - Various   is STILL stalled with Motion to Reconsider  on 5/31/18 by John Cullerton (Mr. President)
 5/31/2018    Senate    Motion Filed to Reconsider Vote Sen. John J. Cullerton
 
 HB2354 Lethal Order of Protection   still waiting to be sent to the Governor.5/30/2018    House    Passed Both Houses
(IF there is a 30 day rule, using May 30 as a start date, 30 days is Friday, June 29, 2018)
 SB3256 (72 Hour Waiting Period/Repeals Nonresident Exemption)   Sent to the Governor  6/6/2018    Senate    Sent to the Governor
( using June 6,2018 as a start date, 60 days is Sunday, August 5, 2018)

Due to ILGA political shennanigans, Ive seen bills sent to the gov office the next day and other times near the end of the 30 days. Not sure of various nuances e.g. if ILGA is out of session.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:47 AM

Is there a time limit on the motion to reconsider or can they string it out until after the election?
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:26 AM

Is there a time limit on the motion to reconsider or can they string it out until after the election?

Now you are out of the framework of the Illinois Constitution, and into the obscure, dimly lit and not well mapped labyrinth of "The Rules".


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:59 PM

 

Is there a time limit on the motion to reconsider or can they string it out until after the election?

Now you are out of the framework of the Illinois Constitution, and into the obscure, dimly lit and not well mapped labyrinth of "The Rules".

 

And the dictator of the Rules Committee is one Mike Madigan.

In other words, the rules are whatever Madigan says they are.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:13 PM

Pretty much what I figured.
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  • 27 June 2016 - Active
  • 29 June 2016 - Received CCL in the mail
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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:17 AM

June 27, 11:00 pm - still no change.

June 22, 11:00 am:
still no change in these three bill's statuses:
(well, except that "meee tooo!!!" Muñoz signed on Co-Sponsor on 6-15 for SB337 and SB3256 )
 
SB337 Gun Dealer Licensing - Various   is STILL stalled with Motion to Reconsider  on 5/31/18 by John Cullerton (Mr. President)
 5/31/2018    Senate    Motion Filed to Reconsider Vote Sen. John J. Cullerton
 ( 6/15/2018 Senate Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Antonio Muñoz)
 
HB2354 Lethal Order of Protection   still waiting to be sent to the Governor.
5/30/2018    House    Passed Both Houses
(IF there is a 30 day rule, using May 30 as a start date, 30 days is Friday, June 29, 2018)
 
SB3256 (72 Hour Waiting Period/Repeals Nonresident Exemption)   Sent to the Governor
  6/6/2018    Senate    Sent to the Governor
( 6/15/2018 Senate Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Antonio Muñoz)
( using June 6,2018 as a start date, 60 days is Sunday, August 5, 2018)


( SB337 6/15/2018 Senate Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Antonio Muñoz)
( SB3256 6/15/2018 Senate Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Antonio Muñoz)


Edited by markthesignguy, 28 June 2018 - 05:24 PM.

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 02:52 PM

SB2640 STATE POLICE-FIREARMS sent to gov 6/28

HB2354 LETHAL ORDER OF PROTECTION sent to gov 6/28

SB2642 FIREARM CONTROL CARD-OFFICER sent to gov 6/22

HB4855 FOID-RENEWAL & SUSPENSION sent to gov 6/22

Edited by InterestedBystander, 28 June 2018 - 02:54 PM.

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Posted 29 June 2018 - 02:14 PM

Well, InterestedBystander - now you're mixing the good in with the bad... (sigh... more work for me.... )

 

edit - latest update:Monday July 16, 2018 :
 
SB337 Gun Dealer Licensing - Various   is STILL stalled with Motion to Reconsider  on 5/31/18 by John Cullerton (Mr. President)
 5/31/2018    Senate    Motion Filed to Reconsider Vote Sen. John J. Cullerton
 ( 6/15/2018 Senate Added as Co-Sponsor Sen. Antonio Muñoz)
 
 
SB3256 (72 Hour Waiting Period/Repeals Nonresident Exemption)   Signed by the Governor
  6/6/2018    Senate    Sent to the Governor
( using June 6,2018 as a start date, 60 days is Sunday, August 5, 2018)

 7/16/2018    Senate    Governor Approved
  7/16/2018    Senate    Effective Date January 1, 2019
  7/16/2018    Senate    Public Act . . . . . . . . . 100-0606
 
 
HB2354 Lethal Order of Protection  Signed by the Governor.
5/30/2018    House    Passed Both Houses
(IF there is a 30 day rule, using May 30 as a start date, 30 days is Friday, June 29, 2018)
6/28/2018 House Sent to the Governor
( using June 28,2018 as a start date, 60 days is   Monday, August 27, 2018)

  7/16/2018    House    Governor Approved
  7/16/2018    House    Effective Date January 1, 2019
  7/16/2018    House    Public Act . . . . . . . . . 100-0607
 
 ******************************  below are favored or neutral bills *************************************

SB2642 FIREARM CONTROL CARD-OFFICER    Sent to the Governor
 6/22/2018    Senate    Sent to the Governor
( using June 22,2018 as a start date, 60 days is Tuesday, August 21, 2018)
 
HB4855 FOID-RENEWAL & SUSPENSION    Sent to the Governor
6/22/2018 House Sent to the Governor
( using June 22,2018 as a start date, 60 days is Tuesday, August 21, 2018)
 
SB2640 STATE POLICE-FIREARMS    Sent to the Governor
6/28/2018 Senate Sent to the Governor
( using June 28,2018 as a start date, 60 days is   Monday, August 27, 2018)


Edited by markthesignguy, 16 July 2018 - 05:00 PM.

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Posted 29 June 2018 - 06:29 PM

Well, InterestedBystander - now you're mixing the good in with the bad... (sigh... more work for me.... )
 


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Posted 02 July 2018 - 01:13 PM

Mark - thanks for the timelines.


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Posted 02 July 2018 - 01:19 PM

SB337, how long can it stay in motion to reconsider?  Certain number of days?  Until the next GA Session Starts?  Until the next Gubernatorial term starts (whomever it may be)? 


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Posted 02 July 2018 - 01:24 PM

A motion to reconsider can stay in effect as long as the legislative session lasts. When the next legislature is seated, all motions expire.

I haven't read the state constitution on this point, but the better question is how late the legislature can pass a bill. I suspect it's required to allow the governor enough time to veto it.

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 05:08 PM

Just got an email from NRA-ILA calling for action now on 337, SB 3256, and HB 2354. Stating the bills went to the Governor's desk.  Did this happen or a oops?


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Posted 02 July 2018 - 05:21 PM

edit - for SB337 / email status read the next post I did...  The status of SB337 remains unchanged - on hold / pause indefinitely this session because of the "motion to reconsider".

 

The bill SB337 can have it's "motion to reconsider" lifted  at the start of the "veto session"  which is AFTER the November 6 general election - which is dangerous because lame duck losers can have their revenge without consequence.

 

 

The Senate stands adjourned until 11/13/2018 @ 12:00 Noon.
The House stands adjourned until 11/13/2018 @ 12:00 Noon.

 

 

SB337 stays live under it's "motion to reconsider" until the NEXT Session (we're in the 100th session now, and the NEW 2 year session (101st) which starts January  9, 2019 cleans the slate of all bills and starts fresh.

 

I see what you mean about the Governor's 60 Days on a Bill.

 

 

Inauguration takes place on the second Monday in January following a gubernatorial election.

 

The Governor's inauguration for the 2019 - 2023 term is January 14, 2019 

and subtracting 60 days from that  gives November 15, 2018

 

The election is on November 6, 2018;

 

 

Then if vetoed, there are 15 days for the issuing body to override, and an additional 15 days for the other chamber to override.

 

 

Article IV of the Illinois Constitution establishes when the General Assembly is to be in session. Section 5 of Article IV states that the General Assembly will convene its regular session on the second Wednesday of January.

That is January 9, 2019.

 

So the bill dies BEFORE and the 101st session of the General Assembly starts before the next Governor is Inaugurated.

 

So, send it to the Governor too late and SB337 can become an interesting legal conundrum.

 

--------------------------------------------  in summation  -----------------------------------------------------

timeline:

Tuesday November 6 2018  general election

 

Saturday, November 10, 2018 60th day before the New 101st session of the Illinois General Assembly (house and Senate) starts

 

Tuesday November 13, Illinois House and Senate reconvene, both at noon.

Thursday November 15, 2018 60th day before the Governor's inauguration 

Wednesday January 9, 2019 New 101st session of the Illinois General Assembly (house and Senate) starts
Monday January 14, 2019 the Governor is sworn in for his term of office.


Edited by markthesignguy, 03 July 2018 - 10:41 PM.

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#29 markthesignguy

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 05:24 PM

Just got an email from NRA-ILA calling for action now on 337, SB 3256, and HB 2354. Stating the bills went to the Governor's desk.  Did this happen or a oops?

I just got one too, and it's (SB337 "to the governor") what started me on the last post.

 

It's a possible "oops", but I can see why they included it. The "motion to reconsider" holding SB337 can be withdrawn at ANY TIME.


Edited by markthesignguy, 02 July 2018 - 07:24 PM.

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 05:07 PM

July 16, 2018 Governer Bruce Rauner signed into law SB3256 and HB2454.

 

Look  to an earlier post above for details.

 

Effective date for both is January 1, 2019.

 

The statuses of the other bills in this thread are unchanged.


Edited by markthesignguy, 16 July 2018 - 05:14 PM.

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