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#31 Drylok

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 06:48 AM

Nearly 8:00 I suspect the judges are meeting now, "drawing straws" and the placer is getting in his spot so the center can snap the ball and let the kicker make his punt right back down to the lower court or right on up to SCOTUS. It will get nice and drug out for a good couple years if they remand it back to the lower so that's what I'm going to prepare for.
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Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:07 AM

Drylok: "Pfffttt!" (loud, drawn-out wet farting sound)

Abolt: There seems to be people moving in and out of the courtroom between cases. It's pretty orderly in there, but perhaps not as orderly as you are expecting. Yes, people typically dress nicely, at least business casual.
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#33 Drylok

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:12 AM

Garand, I admire your never ending optimism but the kind of thinking I posted above is just an exercise I like to do to help keep my witts. It's the ole saying of prepare for the worst but hope for the best.
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks"
-Thomas Jefferson-

Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:28 AM

why make an effort to drag everyone else down to your private little corner of heck?

I would suppose misery actually begs company, eh?
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#35 GarandFan

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:28 AM

Yes, but by keeping your wits in this way you are diminishing the wits of others!

If you must do such exercises, then how about just writing them on a piece of scratch paper?

Really ... you know I am razzing you in part because we weren't able to meet when you came through here on your vacation! :hug:
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:33 AM

GarandFan and Bud, thanks for working hard to keep our spirits up.

Drylok, if that's what has to happen to keep it moving, then that's what has to happen.

It wasn't easy in the founding fathers' days to get these rights recognized in the first place. It stinks having to work so much harder than the rest of the country to get these rights restored, but in the end I do believe we will prevail.


Hugs and highfives to all of you! (Yes, I'm hugging you all with my mind.)

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:41 AM

The panel of judges to hear the case will be Posner, Flaum, Williams.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:44 AM

Anyone know how many of us are there

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:47 AM

Anyone going to be "blogging" from the courtroom?

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:49 AM

The panel of judges to hear the case will be Posner, Flaum, Williams.

are them the one's from Ezells case?

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:50 AM

Personally guys I always have a positive attitude about RTC. Granted it hasn't done squat to advance the cause but it does keep my blood pressure down so hopefully I'll be around to enjoy it when we do pass RTC. :laugh:

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:55 AM

The panel of judges to hear the case will be Posner, Flaum, Williams.

are them the one's from Ezells case?


No. Posner is the 'intellectual heavyweight' Republican appointee who sided with the Collective Rights crowd prior to Heller. He was on the McDonald panel.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:55 AM

Even though they are hearing both side today does that mean they will rule today? Could take some time right?

Edited by souless1027, 08 June 2012 - 07:56 AM.


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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:56 AM

What a day! Last night I got the key card for my local firearms club so I can go anytime I want 24/7, today Prometheus comes out, and most importantly the 7th hears the Moore case!

I HAVE to post this!

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:59 AM

The panel of judges to hear the case will be Posner, Flaum, Williams.

are them the one's from Ezells case?


Apparently in Ezell v Chicago argued April 4th 2011 decided July 6th 2011 was in front of Kanne, Rovner, and Sykes

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:59 AM

McDonald panel? You mean he was part of the decision resulting in the appeal to SCOTUS?
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:02 AM

Will audio to this be streaming live by chance?
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:03 AM

Will audio to this be streaming live by chance?

Probably not we will have to wait for the audio but iam not sure

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:05 AM

McDonald panel? You mean he was part of the decision resulting in the appeal to SCOTUS?


Yes. It is believed that Easterbrook wrote the opinion, but Posner was on the panel. They did help us in that they issued the opinion within a week of the oral arguments and it was directly appealable as opposed to Ezell that was a great opinion but was sent back to lower court.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:05 AM

Any one know what we can expect today


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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:12 AM

Anyone know which judges got drawn yet?

I wish I could have made it in person, watching history unfold is exciting.


edit: Found it! The panel of judges to hear the case will be Posner, Flaum, Williams.
Thanks Molly

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:13 AM

Discussion here.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:14 AM

2 Reagan's vs 1 Clinton

Edited by boomersand, 08 June 2012 - 08:15 AM.


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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:16 AM

2 Regan's vs 1 Clinton

If that's what Lucas meant by the Clone Wars I'd watch that flick.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:18 AM

Does this court have to make a unaimous decision or is a 2-1 good enough?
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:21 AM

Does this court have to make a unaimous decision or is a 2-1 good enough?


That was my thought

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:22 AM

Does this court have to make a unaimous decision or is a 2-1 good enough?


2-1 is a win.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:24 AM

I was afraid all those in the know would be quiet as they are probably in the court room right now.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:29 AM

will a decision be made today
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:29 AM

I really wanted to go, but I've missed too many days of work in the past month. Not sure if I count as being "in the know."