FoxtrotIndia Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:07 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:07 PM Synopsis As IntroducedAmends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that beginning January 1, 2020, all handgun ammunition that is manufactured, imported into the State for sale or personal use, kept for sale, offered or exposed for sale, sold, given, lent, or possessed shall be serialized. Provides that beginning January 1, 2020, any person who manufactures, causes to be manufactured, imports into the State for sale or personal use, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale, or who gives or lends any handgun ammunition that is not serialized is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. Provides that beginning January 1, 2020, any person who possesses in any public place any handgun ammunition that is not serialized is guilty of a Class C misdemeanor. Provides exceptions. Provides that beginning January 1, 2020, the Department of State Police shall maintain a centralized registry of all reports of handgun ammunition transactions reported to the Department in a manner prescribed by the Department. Provides that information in the registry, upon proper application for that information, shall be furnished to peace officers and authorized employees of the Department of State Police or to the person listed in the registry as the owner of the particular handgun ammunition. Provides that the Department of State Police shall adopt rules relating to the assessment and collection of end-user fees in an amount not to exceed $0.005 per round of handgun ammunition or per bullet, in which the accumulated fee amount may not exceed the cost to pay for the infrastructure, implementation, operational, enforcement, and future development costs of these provisions. Effective January 1, 2020, except some provisions effective immediately.http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1586&GAID=15&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=116073&SessionID=108Also, I hope this is an acceptable first post. I've heard of Illinois Carry for a long time, but finally joined up after hearing Mickey on the Higher Line Podcast. After hearing all that she / y'all have done, I'm hoping I can help out in some way as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:14 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:14 PM Blah blah blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:17 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:17 PM Now I understand why they want to legalize weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Two Guns Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:21 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:21 PM Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Two Guns Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:21 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:21 PM Last one out get the lights........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:29 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:29 PM Still needs to be fought, but this one is so idiotic that it can be beat in court. Let them keep at it, as this will get ALL gun owners ticked off regardless of political stances. Grandpa’s old .38 will no longer be fed with $22.50 per box, it’ll be $60 instead...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlin Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:42 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:42 PM Now I understand why they want to legalize weed. Whoever is coming up with this stuff is smoking it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxtrotIndia Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:42 PM Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:42 PM Now I understand why they want to legalize weed. Imagine the outrage if they announced every joint, bong, pipe, or all other related paraphernalia had to be serialized, registered, taxed twice, and approved by a CLEO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:50 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:50 PM Provides that beginning January 1, 2020, any person who possesses in any public place any handgun ammunition that is not serialized is guilty of a Class C misdemeanor.You've got a year to use up all your ammo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:50 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:50 PM This is her third time at bat with this bill.I don't think this bill has succeeded anywhere in the country. I'd be surprised if the man flogging this is even still in business, unless bloomberg or soros is keeping him afloat, I'll look it up.Yup, no more website, he's gone. He also has a free blogspot page, nothing since october.100th GA:http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?GA=100&DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=271&GAID=14&SessionID=91&LegID=99300 99th GAhttp://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?GA=99&DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=6615&GAID=13&SessionID=88&LegID=98494 30 month old story:https://www.guns.com/news/2016/09/02/chicago-area-lawmaker-wants-to-put-serial-numbers-on-ammo-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:54 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:54 PM Now I understand why they want to legalize weed. Imagine the outrage if they announced every joint, bong, pipe, or all other related paraphernalia had to be serialized, registered, taxed twice, and approved by a CLEO... Actually to really make the tax revenue it needs to be somewhere close to that. A tax stamp on packs (loose weed illegal) and all vapes and everything else. With black market vapes as available as Jimmy Johns and a 1/3 of the dispensary price they are already loosing a small fortune on medical, legal will be a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic6010 Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:58 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:58 PM Provides that beginning January 1, 2020, any person who possesses in any public place any handgun ammunition that is not serialized is guilty of a Class C misdemeanor.You've got a year to use up all your ammo... No, it means you have a year to stock pile all you think you will ever need. Your home and privately owned land are not public places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:08 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:08 PM · Hidden by Molly B., February 11, 2019 at 05:14 AM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., February 11, 2019 at 05:14 AM - No reason given I am so sick of these people, all need removed from office. Link to comment
ScopeEye Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:09 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:09 PM How much is going to cost me to serialize my 60,000 rounds of 22 lr ammo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:27 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:27 PM The session is young, we will see some plenty stupid and egregious stuff out there.Please don't dissect the non-logic in each bill and thus help the antigunners fix their bad bills.Am I guilty of this too? probably at some point. By announcing that it looks like Ammo Coding System is belly up? perhaps not. Let's publish the basic bill info, denounce it as stupid, and move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2smartby1/2 Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:31 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:31 PM LOL!!!! They are just trolling us now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:47 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:47 PM Synopsis As IntroducedAmends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that beginning January 1, 2020, all handgun ammunition that is manufactured, imported into the State for sale or personal use, kept for sale, offered or exposed for sale, sold, given, lent, or possessed shall be serialized. Provides that beginning January 1, 2020, any person who manufactures, causes to be manufactured, imports into the State for sale or personal use, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale, or who gives or lends any handgun ammunition that is not serialized is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. Provides that beginning January 1, 2020, any person who possesses in any public place any handgun ammunition that is not serialized is guilty of a Class C misdemeanor. Provides exceptions. Provides that beginning January 1, 2020, the Department of State Police shall maintain a centralized registry of all reports of handgun ammunition transactions reported to the Department in a manner prescribed by the Department. Provides that information in the registry, upon proper application for that information, shall be furnished to peace officers and authorized employees of the Department of State Police or to the person listed in the registry as the owner of the particular handgun ammunition. Provides that the Department of State Police shall adopt rules relating to the assessment and collection of end-user fees in an amount not to exceed $0.005 per round of handgun ammunition or per bullet, in which the accumulated fee amount may not exceed the cost to pay for the infrastructure, implementation, operational, enforcement, and future development costs of these provisions. Effective January 1, 2020, except some provisions effective immediately. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1586&GAID=15&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=116073&SessionID=108 Also, I hope this is an acceptable first post. I've heard of Illinois Carry for a long time, but finally joined up after hearing Mickey on the Higher Line Podcast. After hearing all that she / y'all have done, I'm hoping I can help out in some way as well. Well done, great first post and welcome aboard !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:49 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:49 PM ... Also, I hope this is an acceptable first post. I've heard of Illinois Carry for a long time, but finally joined up after hearing Mickey on the Higher Line Podcast. After hearing all that she / y'all have done, I'm hoping I can help out in some way as well. Thanks for bringing it to our attention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:52 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 11:52 PM The Marxist / liberal Dummycrats are in a frenzy to get their lips pressed against Bloombergs wrinkled up old ***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 31, 2019 at 12:48 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 12:48 AM LOL!!!! They are just trolling us now....That's what I thought when they came out with the social media bill, trolling and intimidating people from exercising their 1st amendment rights. That pesky 1st Amendment they are trying to make worthless like the 2nd Amendment prevents them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awan Posted January 31, 2019 at 01:09 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 01:09 AM Bloomberg strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted January 31, 2019 at 01:39 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 01:39 AM ( c ) Beginning January 1, 2020, and except as provided in subsection (g-15) of Section 24-2, a person commits unlawful possession of non-serialized handgun ammunition when he or she knowingly possesses non-serialized ammunition for a rifle having one or more barrels less than 16 inches in length or a shotgun having one or more barrels less than 18 inches in length or any weapon made from a rifle or shotgun, whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise, if the weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches. A violation of this subsection is a Class C misdemeanor. SBR owners get shafted too, I bet it applies to those AK/AR handguns too Also, they give us 15 years to use up our stockpiled ammo (g-15) Subsections 24-1.10 (a) and 24-1.10 ( B ) do not apply to or affect any of the following: (11) Possession of non-serialized handgun ammunition by a person issued a concealed carry license by the Department of State Police under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act or issued a Firearm Owner's Identification Card by the Department under the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act on his or her person, in a firearm, or in a vehicle for 15 years after the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 101st General Assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_notch Posted January 31, 2019 at 03:13 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 03:13 AM Why is it we always seem to be on the defensive? Why aren't we trying to repeal the NFA, or allow silencers, or pass laws against any firearm infringement otherwise it's a felony, etc...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 31, 2019 at 03:19 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 03:19 AM My ammo already has serial numbers, the most popular serial number for my ammo is 12GA, 9MM, 40S&W, 45ACP, 5,56MM and 223REM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 31, 2019 at 03:23 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 03:23 AM ( c ) Beginning January 1, 2020, and except as provided insubsection (g-15) of Section 24-2, a person commits unlawfulpossession of non-serialized handgun ammunition when he or sheknowingly possesses non-serialized ammunition for a riflehaving one or more barrels less than 16 inches in length or ashotgun having one or more barrels less than 18 inches inlength or any weapon made from a rifle or shotgun, whether byalteration, modification, or otherwise, if the weapon asmodified has an overall length of less than 26 inches. Aviolation of this subsection is a Class C misdemeanor. SBR owners get shafted too, I bet it applies to those AK/AR handguns too Also, they give us 15 years to use up our stockpiled ammo(g-15) Subsections 24-1.10 (a) and 24-1.10 ( B ) do not apply to or affect any of the following: (11) Possession of non-serialized handgun ammunitionby a person issued a concealed carry license by theDepartment of State Police under the Firearm ConcealedCarry Act or issued a Firearm Owner's Identification Cardby the Department under the Firearm Owners IdentificationCard Act on his or her person, in a firearm, or in avehicle for 15 years after the effective date of thisamendatory Act of the 101st General Assembly.All in an attempt to get us to use up our supply now so we are defenseless. They have plans for us, thats for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted January 31, 2019 at 03:29 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 03:29 AM Why is it we always seem to be on the defensive? Why aren't we trying to repeal the NFA, or allow silencers, or pass laws against any firearm infringement otherwise it's a felony, etc...?There are many people trying, Gunowners of America is trying to fight NFA nonsense in court right now and Second Amendment Foundation is also doing all they can. States like South Dakota are about to become Constitutional carry and many places are loosening restrictions. It's hard to see it all while in Illinois because we have a Marxist nanny state regime running everything, about 90% of Illinois gun owners are dead weight and refuse to join the fight ( they will sometimes ask why we didn't do more and then go back to sleep ), and about 60 to 70 % of Illinois residents are tax loving sheep who think those sucking the life out of them are the people to vote for over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted January 31, 2019 at 03:39 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 03:39 AM ( c ) Beginning January 1, 2020, and except as provided insubsection (g-15) of Section 24-2, a person commits unlawfulpossession of non-serialized handgun ammunition when he or sheknowingly possesses non-serialized ammunition for a riflehaving one or more barrels less than 16 inches in length or ashotgun having one or more barrels less than 18 inches inlength or any weapon made from a rifle or shotgun, whether byalteration, modification, or otherwise, if the weapon asmodified has an overall length of less than 26 inches. Aviolation of this subsection is a Class C misdemeanor. SBR owners get shafted too, I bet it applies to those AK/AR handguns too Also, they give us 15 years to use up our stockpiled ammo(g-15) Subsections 24-1.10 (a) and 24-1.10 ( B ) do not apply to or affect any of the following: (11) Possession of non-serialized handgun ammunitionby a person issued a concealed carry license by theDepartment of State Police under the Firearm ConcealedCarry Act or issued a Firearm Owner's Identification Cardby the Department under the Firearm Owners IdentificationCard Act on his or her person, in a firearm, or in avehicle for 15 years after the effective date of thisamendatory Act of the 101st General Assembly. Wouldn't this also apply to Mossberg Shockwave and the Remington TAC 14 ? Although neither was ever a shotgun just like an AR or AK pistol was never a rifle ? I don't think it matters to the freedom haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird76Mojo Posted January 31, 2019 at 04:53 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 04:53 AM Why is it we always seem to be on the defensive? Why aren't we trying to repeal the NFA, or allow silencers, or pass laws against any firearm infringement otherwise it's a felony, etc...?JOIN THE GOA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOCK22 Posted January 31, 2019 at 04:56 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 04:56 AM Provides that beginning January 1, 2020, any person who possesses in any public place any handgun ammunition that is not serialized is guilty of a Class C misdemeanor.You've got a year to use up all your ammo... It'll take me much longer than that....I buy a box every time a politician lies..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2smartby1/2 Posted January 31, 2019 at 05:57 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 05:57 AM I don't want to give away hints to make the bill better, but the bill is so stupid and full of holes that whomever wrote has clearly never picked up a firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.