mikew Posted December 29, 2018 at 07:37 PM Share Posted December 29, 2018 at 07:37 PM Brazil’s president-elect vows to loosen gun laws https://apnews.com/6b4d1ad457e44688a4cfd7e05dc31ab1 excerpt:Brazil’s President-elect Jair Bolsonaro says that on taking office, he will issue a decree guaranteeing citizens without a criminal history the ability to possess firearms.Bolsonaro made the statement Saturday via Twitter. The loosening of gun laws was a central component of his election campaign. The ex-army captain takes office Jan. 1.Currently possession of firearms is tightly restricted in Brazil. Civilians must pass through a long process, and the sale of weapons is limited to small calibers.Despite the difficulty legally possessing a firearm, gun violence is a problem in Brazil. In 2017, Brazil set a record for murders with just over 63,000 people killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted December 30, 2018 at 06:24 PM Share Posted December 30, 2018 at 06:24 PM i never really understood what a third country was until I was there, RIO was very bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted December 30, 2018 at 07:08 PM Share Posted December 30, 2018 at 07:08 PM I hope that means I can buy an IMBEL Pistol .380 GC MD2 LX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebob Posted December 30, 2018 at 09:43 PM Share Posted December 30, 2018 at 09:43 PM I googled and found that Brazil has a murder rate of 209.9 per million compared to the U.S. at 42.01 and guns per 100 people is 8 for Brazil and 88.8 for U.S. Looks like gun ownership isn't the cause of Brazil's high murder rate. .s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted December 30, 2018 at 11:23 PM Share Posted December 30, 2018 at 11:23 PM I hope that means I can buy an IMBEL Pistol .380 GC MD2 LX Nope, that would be up to our president to lift the GHW Bush import ban executive action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted December 31, 2018 at 02:27 PM Share Posted December 31, 2018 at 02:27 PM yep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted December 31, 2018 at 02:50 PM Share Posted December 31, 2018 at 02:50 PM Last year's Huntington Post article : https://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-muggah/brazils-gun-violence-prob_b_7831298.html A burning question is how to reduce the availability of illegal firearms and ammunition. Politicians argue that it´s impossible to keep weapons from crossing Brazil´s porous borders. They have a point. Arms and ammunition seized in Rio de Janeiro can be traced to dozens of countries, with some of them crossing over the Atlantic, but also Argentina, Bolivia, Colombia and Paraguay. It's always astounding that these anti-gun reporters have the facts right in front of them but they then make horribly bad policy recommendations. The bill that is being proposed would lower the age of eligibility for ownership from 25 years old to 21 years old and allow people to purchase up to 6 firearms per year and up to 100 rounds of ammunition for each firearm - per year. The bill would also create a permitting process to enable people age 25 or older to carry firearms on their person outside of their homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 1, 2019 at 02:34 AM Share Posted January 1, 2019 at 02:34 AM I googled and found that Brazil has a murder rate of 209.9 per million compared to the U.S. at 42.01 and guns per 100 people is 8 for Brazil and 88.8 for U.S. Looks like gun ownership isn't the cause of Brazil's high murder rate..sThat shows that gun control doesn't work. Guns are illegal in Brazil but the murder rate with guns is higher than in the US. Taking the guns from law abiding people and leaving them defenseless doesn't work, criminals will always have guns. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/latin-americas-murder-rate-is-skyrocketing-the-united-states-should-help/2018/09/30/f38b5bbe-c34f-11e8-a1f0-a4051b6ad114_story.html?utm_term=.ebec9742a7ba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted January 1, 2019 at 10:37 AM Share Posted January 1, 2019 at 10:37 AM From the Washington Post: Latin America accounts for about a third of all murders. We’re talking about criminal violence, not political strife That's not true. Venezuelan murders, which account for a good portion of the murders, are directly due to political strife, including a two-pronged strategy by the government to disarm the populace while arming gangs to suppress political opposition to the regime. The Washington Post doesn't want to admit that their beloved socialist reformers have turned into murderous socialist dictators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted January 1, 2019 at 02:06 PM Share Posted January 1, 2019 at 02:06 PM Had to dig up these articles to show what kind of guns you can still get with heavy gun control.https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/06/07/brazilian-gun-seizures-panorama/ https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/11/01/some-more-illegal-guns-seized-in-brazil/ Ma deuce https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/09/27/m2-browning-guns-seized-brazil/ https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/09/17/some-recent-brazilian-illegal-gun-seizing-events/ Illegally manufactured gunshttps://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/06/25/another-look-at-brazils-crime-weapons/ Another smg factoryhttps://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/10/23/illegal-smg-factory-busted-sao-paulo-brazil/ More crazy home built gunshttps://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/10/17/bunch-diy-weapons-seized-brazil-part/ DIY 50bmghttps://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/05/04/diy-ar-50-rides-brazil/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted January 1, 2019 at 04:24 PM Share Posted January 1, 2019 at 04:24 PM Brazil has the world's third longest land border, 10,492 miles, ranked only behind China and Russia for longest border. Brazil's border is impossible for Brazil to police. I'd like to have anyone who believes in open borders explain to me where the grenades came from and how leftist laws and policies (gun control or otherwise) account for Brazilian criminals obtaining hand grenades? At some point people have to realize that governments are unable to keep contraband out of the hands of criminals. Governments fail at keeping drugs out of the hands of criminals and they fail at keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals. The question then centers on if the government is going to disarm the citizenry and make them helpless or allow the citizenry weapons so that they can defend themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted January 1, 2019 at 08:47 PM Share Posted January 1, 2019 at 08:47 PM . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted January 2, 2019 at 04:05 PM Share Posted January 2, 2019 at 04:05 PM Yes, all the illegal guns in Chicago come from Indiana, so we need stronger nationwide gun control to prevent people from buying guns in less restrictive states. Jaba needs to build a wall along the Indiana border to keep all those evil Indiana guns out of Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted January 3, 2019 at 12:48 PM Share Posted January 3, 2019 at 12:48 PM Also, Don Harmon and Kathleen Willis never consider that criminals will simply manufacture their own firearms - those two are so ignorant, they don't think it is a possibility. Besides being simple economics and common sense that criminals would create firearms, Brazil is an example of it actually occurring. When the military conducts raids in Rio de Janeiro, they confiscate perfectly functional "home-made" sub-machine guns. I don't think they're made by the gang members themselves, I think more than a few machinists are manufacturing guns for sale on the black market. The ones I've seen follow the pattern of the M3 Grease gun or the Argentinian P.A.M. quite a few look like the Intratec TEC-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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