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#1 Molly B.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 05:32 PM

This topic will be reserved for updates for the CLIC curriculum as they come to our attention. However, it is up to the individual instructor to make sure their material stays up to date.
 

If you purchased a curriculum and would like to update to the 4.0 packet, a complete packet is $75.  It includes an Instructor's manual and DVD.

 

The DVD includes:

Power Point (Keynote for apple users)

Massad Ayoob video on Use of Force

Handout of prohibited place

Handout of Justified Use of Force Statute

 

 

Send $75 via PayPal (please add 3% for PayPal fees) to IllinoisCarryInc(at)gmail.com

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Update 8/14/2015:  Carry Legally In Illinois Course - CLIC 4.0 Changes and Updates

 

Attached File  CLIC Update August 14, 2015.pdf   187.24KB   482 downloads

 

Module #2 Illinois FOID

Add to number 3:
(430 ILCS 65/2)  (from Ch. 38, par. 83-2)
(c-5) The provisions of paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (a) of this Section regarding the possession of firearms and firearm ammunition do not apply to the holder of a valid concealed carry license issued under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act who is in physical possession of the concealed carry license.

Edit number 4:
4.    A FOID application can be accessed on the Illinois State Police website or by calling the Illinois State Police.

Add to number 18:
New laws may apply to the holder of a valid concealed carry license issued under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act who is in physical possession of the concealed carry license. (430 ILCS 65/2)  (from Ch. 38, par. 83-2) states:
Sec. 2. Firearm Owner's Identification Card required; exceptions.
(c-5) The provisions of paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (a) of this Section regarding the possession of firearms and firearm ammunition do not apply to the holder of a valid concealed carry license issued under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act who is in physical possession of the concealed carry license.

Add to number 19:
New laws may apply to the holder of a valid concealed carry license issued under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act who is in physical possession of the concealed carry license. (430 ILCS 65/2)  (from Ch. 38, par. 83-2) states:
Sec. 2. Firearm Owner's Identification Card required; exceptions.
(c-5) The provisions of paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (a) of this Section regarding the possession of firearms and firearm ammunition do not apply to the holder of a valid concealed carry license issued under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act who is in physical possession of the concealed carry license.

Module # 4 - Introduction to Illinois Firearm Transportation Laws

Add to number 8:
An Illinois Concealed Carry License may suffice due to changes in (430 ILCS 65/2)  (from Ch. 38, par. 83-2) “(c-5) The provisions of paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (a) of this Section regarding the possession of firearms and firearm ammunition do not apply to the holder of a valid concealed carry license issued under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act who is in physical possession of the concealed carry license.

Module # 5 - Introduction to Carry Law

Add to number 7
The disclosure requirement under this subsection (h) is satisfied if the licensee presents his or her license to the officer or the non-resident presents to the officer evidence under paragraph (2) of subsection (e) of Section 40 of this Act that he or she is qualified to carry under that subsection. Upon the request of the officer, the licensee or non-resident shall identify the location of the concealed firearm and permit the officer to safely secure the firearm for the duration of the investigative stop.
If a licensee carrying a firearm or a non-resident carrying a firearm in a vehicle under subsection (e) of Section 40 of this Act is contacted by a law enforcement officer or emergency services personnel, the law enforcement officer or emergency services personnel may secure the firearm or direct that it be secured during the duration of the contact if the law enforcement officer or emergency services personnel determines that it is necessary for the safety of any person present, including the law enforcement officer or emergency services personnel. The licensee or nonresident shall submit to the order to secure the firearm. When the law enforcement officer or emergency services personnel have determined that the licensee or non-resident is not a threat to the safety of any person present, including the law enforcement officer or emergency services personnel, and if the licensee or non-resident is physically and mentally capable of possessing the firearm, the law enforcement officer or emergency services personnel shall return the firearm to the licensee or non-resident before releasing him or her from the scene and breaking contact. If the licensee or non-resident is transported for treatment to another location, the firearm shall be turned over to any peace officer. The peace officer shall provide a receipt which includes the make, model, caliber, and serial number of the firearm.

Edit number 12:
The Department may require a notarized statement that the licensee has changed his or her residence or his or her name, including the prior and current address or name and the date the applicant moved or changed his or her name

Edit number 19:
provided the licensee ensures the concealed firearm is unloaded prior to exiting the vehicle.

Appendix A

Add to number 4:
  (iv) are carried or possessed in accordance with the Firearm Concealed Carry Act by a person who has been issued a currently valid license under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act; or

Add to number 10
(iv) are carried or possessed in accordance with the Firearm Concealed Carry Act by a person who has been issued a currently valid license under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act.



Update Jan. 1, 2014

To be added to Module 2 – Illinois FOID
Person to Person Firearm Transfers - Requirement to Validate Buyer's FOID card

430 ILCS 65/3(a-10) - Any person who is not a federally licensed firearm dealer and who desires to transfer or sell a firearm or firearms to any person who is not a federally licensed firearm dealer shall, before selling or transferring the firearms, contact the Department of State Police with the transferee's or purchaser's Firearm Owner's Identification Card number to determine the validity of the transferee's or purchaser's Firearm Owner's Identification Card. This subsection shall not be effective until January 1, 2014. The Department of State Police may adopt rules concerning the implementation of this subsection. The Department of State Police shall provide the seller or transferor an approval number if the purchaser's Firearm Owner's Identification Card is valid. Approvals issued by the Department for the purchase of a firearm pursuant to this subsection are valid for 30 days from the date of issue.

FOIDs may be validated on the ISP website: https://www.isp.stat...oid/foidp2p.cfm or by calling 217-524-3847

Requirement to Report Lost or Stolen Firearms
(720 ILCS 5/24-4.1 new) Sec. 24-4.1. Report of lost or stolen firearms. (a) If a person who possesses a valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card and who possesses or acquires a firearm thereafter loses the firearm, or if the firearm is stolen from the person, the person must report the loss or theft to the local law enforcement agency within 72 hours after obtaining knowledge of the loss or theft.

To be added to Module 5 – Intro to Carry Law
Non-residents and passengers must comply when asked by law enforcement if they are carrying and licensed.

(430 ILCS 66/10)
investigative stop, including but not limited to a traffic
stop, of a licensee or a non-resident carrying a concealed
firearm under subsection (e) of Section 40 of this Act
upon the request of the officer
the licensee or non-resident shall disclose to the officer that
he or she is in possession of a concealed firearm under this
Act, present the license upon the request of the officer if he
or she is a licensee or present upon the request of the officer
evidence under paragraph (2) of subsection (e) of Section 40 of

this Act that he or she is a non-resident qualified to carry
under that subsection, and identify the location of the
concealed firearm. During a traffic stop, any passenger within
the vehicle who is a licensee or a non-resident carrying under
subsection (e) of Section 40 of this Act must comply with the
requirements of this subsection (h).

The ISP has modified the minimum time requirement for each element of training required by law:

d) Training necessary for issuance of the FCCL shall consist of 16 hours of classroom and firearm training. Pursuant to Section 75(g), (h) and (i) of the Act, fewer hours of training, or no additional training, will be acceptable in certain instances (see Appendix B] indicating prior firearms training.

1) A 16 hour training course must, at a minimum, cover the following topics:

A) Firearms Safety − a minimum of 1 hour;

B] Basic Principles of Marksmanship − a minimum of 1 hour;

C) Care, Cleaning, Loading and Unloading of a Concealable Firearm − a minimum of 1 hour;

D) All Applicable State and Federal Laws Relating to the Ownership, Storage, Carry and Transportation of a Firearm and appropriate and lawful interaction with law enforcement while transporting or carrying a concealed firearm − a minimum of 2 hours; and

E) Weapons Handling − a minimum of 1 hour.

2) An 8 hour training course must, at a minimum, cover the following topics:

A) All Applicable State and Federal Laws Relating to the Ownership, Storage, Carry and Transportation of a Firearm and appropriate and lawful interaction with law enforcement while transporting or carrying a concealed firearm − a minimum of 2 hours; and

B] Weapons Handling − a minimum of 1 hour.

3) For the topics to be included in the 16 hour and 8 hour training courses, the minimum hours established in this subsection (d) have been determined to be sufficient for the experienced shooter and shall be adjusted upward by the approved instructor based upon the skill level of those to be trained to ensure proficiency by all upon the completion of the required training component.

DNR Update -
Dept. of Natural Resources is working through the Wildlife Code in order to bring it into compliance with the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. They plan to have a webpage up by early March which will note changes to DNR regulations.

Currently, the IL DNR states there is no prohibition on concealed carry while boating or fishing if license holder is not in a prohibited area - such as Cook Co. Forest Preserve.

Module 4 - Transportation Law
Page 24, No. 4: Due to the statewide preemptive transportation law the following needs to be changed:
You may keep a firearm in your hotel room while traveling in Illinois assuming no local ordinance applies. The critical question is how the firearm was carried into the room and transported in a vehicle. Those actions must be done lawfully. However, (quoting Illinois Law) the regulation, licensing, possession, registration, and transportation of handguns and ammunition for handguns by licensees are exclusive powers and functions of the State.
 

A correction noted by an IllinoisCarry member pertains to BB guns:

Regarding 430 ILCS 65 1.1 For purpose of this Act: {*i.e. the definitions*}

On page 13 CLIC says "Firearm" means ... "(1) any pneumatic gun, spring gun, paint ball gun, or B-B gun which expels a single globular projectile not exceeding 0.18 inch in diameter AND which has a muzzle velocity of less than 700 feet per second;"

That used to be the law, but it was changed to allow BB guns with higher muzzle velocities and if you look up that section today, the AND has been replaced with OR.

 

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Edited by Molly B., 13 January 2016 - 05:29 PM.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 06:40 PM

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:18 PM

Thank you.

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 09:19 AM

Thanks for heads up.

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 11:34 PM

This is going to be a active thread once amendments kick in

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:40 AM

This is going to be a active thread once amendments kick in


The changes are already in effect: Public Act 098-0600


Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect upon becoming law.


Effective Date: 12/6/2013


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:53 PM

New updates added according to new legislation and ISP Rules and Regulations.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 02:04 PM

New updates added according to new legislation and ISP Rules and Regulations.


For those of us that purchased the curriculum, is this the only way we get any updates? Just curious.

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 02:14 PM

From the cover letter that comes with the curriculum:

This edition is reflective of state law as of the effective date of the law on July 9, 2013. It is the responsibility of the purchaser to know and follow any changes in the law.


If you provided an email address with your order, we will be sending out an email update.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 02:41 PM

I wasn't being negative :) I was just wondering. I paid by Paypal so my email should be included. Very appreciative for all the hard work at Illinois Carry!

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 04:01 PM

I haven't seen any updates ever. I hope there aren't any hard feelings because of anything I've said.

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 04:20 PM

The only updates so far have been posted in this topic. We have been waiting for the ISP permanent rules to be posted before emailing.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 04:21 PM

I have a question about the Transportation Power Point. In slide 5 it reads

•You may keep a firearm in your hotel room while traveling in Illinois assuming no local ordinance applies. The critical question is how the firearm was carried into the room and transported in a vehicle. Those actions must be done lawfully.

Is that correct? I didn't think it could be prevented because my room would be my domicile and also because of the preemption in the FCCA.
Am I missing something?

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 06:27 PM

I have a question about the Transportation Power Point. In slide 5 it reads

•You may keep a firearm in your hotel room while traveling in Illinois assuming no local ordinance applies. The critical question is how the firearm was carried into the room and transported in a vehicle. Those actions must be done lawfully.

Is that correct? I didn't think it could be prevented because my room would be my domicile and also because of the preemption in the FCCA.
Am I missing something?


That section applies to the FOID act, not those with carry licenses and is quoted from the ISP brochure. We expect them to update their transportation brochure in the coming weeks.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 06:35 PM

Thanks Molly. I found the brochure but the word hotel or motel does not even appear in the FOID Act.

Should we assume this to no longer be correct information?

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 06:36 PM

Thanks Molly. I found the brochure but the word hotel or motel does not even appear in the FOID Act.

Should we assume this to no longer be correct information?


Yes. It will be one of the updates.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 06:41 PM

Thank you Molly.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 12:59 PM

Current downloadable document for printing has been added to opening post.
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Posted 30 January 2014 - 02:08 PM

Transportation still seems incorrect. Am I missing something?

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 06:00 PM

Transportation still seems incorrect. Am I missing something?


In what aspect?
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Posted 30 January 2014 - 09:06 PM

The "assuming no local ordinance applies" part in regards to keeping a firearm in my hotel room. My hotel room is my domicile. No local ordinance prohibiting a firearm in my hotel room would be valid. Additionally the preemption in the FCCA would prevent it anyway. The quoted language is from a badly written paragraph on an ISP brochure. I can't find anything in the law that would support any of it unless I am missing something.

Additionally, isn't there preemption on transportation of all firearms? Not just handguns?

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 10:39 PM

Additionally, isn't there preemption on transportation of all firearms? Not just handguns?

Yes, but once you take a long gun into a hotel, you are no longer transporting. We are thinking the AWBs then can come into play.
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Posted 30 March 2014 - 07:47 PM

Update is not working......



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 07:49 PM

Update is not working......

 

Works for me.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 08:03 PM

 

Update is not working......

 

Works for me.

 

Doesn't work for me, either.  I get an error message from both Adobe Reader and Preview (Mac application) saying the file is damaged.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 08:04 PM

 

Update is not working......

 

Works for me.

 

I can download it but says its damaged and cannot be repaired when trying to view it



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 08:10 PM

I get this error (file is damaged and can't be opened) if the file is saved with the menu option rather than the save button at the bottom middle of the screen (appears when the mouse is floated there).

 

Don't know if that is the case with this file though.



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 08:13 PM

Checked again.  No problem here.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 08:20 PM

Checked again.  No problem here.

would you mind emailing me the download to see if it works that way?



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 08:20 PM

Be glad to . . .

 

 

 

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