mab22 Posted October 18, 2020 at 04:39 PM Share Posted October 18, 2020 at 04:39 PM According to his website! HOLY! https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/#https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/17/joe-bidens-gun-agenda-could-cost-ar-15-owners-3-6-billion-in-taxes-for-guns-they-already-own/ NFA stamps for AR’s, or whatever they deem an “assault weapon”.10 days for the NICS checkAnd more! Go read his website yourself. https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted October 18, 2020 at 06:27 PM Share Posted October 18, 2020 at 06:27 PM " The federal background check system (the National Instant Criminal Background Check System) is one of the best tools we have to prevent gun violence, but it’s only effective when it’s used. Biden will enact universal background check legislation and close other loopholes that allow people who should be prohibited from purchasing firearms from making those purchases... So, does that mean they'll require background checks for all the illegal, back alley gun sales? That'll really help. Glad he has a plan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted October 18, 2020 at 07:15 PM Share Posted October 18, 2020 at 07:15 PM How politicians blur fact/fiction:From the Biden-Harris website: Joe Biden knows that gun violence is a public health epidemic. Almost 40,000 people die as a result of firearm injuries every year in the United States From the CDC document they use to justify that number:Suicides by firearms: 23,854Homicides by firearms: 14,542Accidental discharge: 486 By preceding 1 truthful statement about deaths that can be associated with firearms in any way with the phrase "gun violence" they give the impression 40,00 people a year are dying by gun violence. They don't lie by omission, they lie by implication. It's still a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted October 18, 2020 at 07:23 PM Share Posted October 18, 2020 at 07:23 PM You have a DNC-approved right to suicide as long as you don't use a firearm, and as long as you pledge to continue to vote for DNC candidates. (After the fact) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted October 18, 2020 at 11:23 PM Share Posted October 18, 2020 at 11:23 PM How politicians blur fact/fiction:From the Biden-Harris website: Joe Biden knows that gun violence is a public health epidemic. Almost 40,000 people die as a result of firearm injuries every year in the United States From the CDC document they use to justify that number:Suicides by firearms: 23,854Homicides by firearms: 14,542Accidental discharge: 486 By preceding 1 truthful statement about deaths that can be associated with firearms in any way with the phrase "gun violence" they give the impression 40,00 people a year are dying by gun violence. They don't lie by omission, they lie by implication. It's still a lie. And how many of those homicides were deemed justifiable? IIRC, about a third were a few years ago. Hard to believe the numbers have changed much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted October 19, 2020 at 12:02 AM Share Posted October 19, 2020 at 12:02 AM How politicians blur fact/fiction:From the Biden-Harris website: Joe Biden knows that gun violence is a public health epidemic. Almost [/size]40,000 people[/size] die as a result of firearm injuries every year in the United States[/size] From the CDC document they use to justify that number:Suicides by firearms: 23,854Homicides by firearms: 14,542Accidental discharge: 486 By preceding 1 truthful statement about deaths that can be associated with firearms in any way with the phrase "gun violence" they give the impression 40,00 people a year are dying by gun violence. They don't lie by omission, they lie by implication. It's still a lie. And how many of those homicides were deemed justifiable? IIRC, about a third were a few years ago. Hard to believe the numbers have changed much.and iirc, if you look at the numbers, "assault weapons" used is insanely low. Not to mention they cant honestly define them and how they are different than a normal semi except by cosmetics. But it makes for good scarey optics for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted October 19, 2020 at 12:44 AM Share Posted October 19, 2020 at 12:44 AM and iirc, if you look at the numbers, "assault weapons" used is insanely low. Not to mention they cant honestly define them and how they are different than a normal semi except by cosmetics. But it makes for good scarey optics for them. Rifles of any type used is very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted October 19, 2020 at 01:36 AM Share Posted October 19, 2020 at 01:36 AM and iirc, if you look at the numbers, "assault weapons" used is insanely low. Not to mention they cant honestly define them and how they are different than a normal semi except by cosmetics. But it makes for good scarey optics for them. Rifles of any type used is very low. Fatalities for long arms are outnumbered by "hands and feet". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScopeEye Posted October 19, 2020 at 02:51 AM Share Posted October 19, 2020 at 02:51 AM Pedo Joe and Heel's up Harris can go - - - - - - - - - - - - - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted October 19, 2020 at 03:30 AM Share Posted October 19, 2020 at 03:30 AM There are gun owners who will vote for Biden because orange man bad. It's maddening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagloo Posted October 19, 2020 at 04:22 AM Share Posted October 19, 2020 at 04:22 AM There are gun owners who will vote for Biden because orange man bad. It's maddening. A few right here even! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted October 19, 2020 at 02:38 PM Share Posted October 19, 2020 at 02:38 PM There are gun owners who will vote for Biden because orange man bad. It's maddening. A few right here even! ^Even worse, because Orange Man isn't perfect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted October 19, 2020 at 02:42 PM Share Posted October 19, 2020 at 02:42 PM "We should be passing rational gun laws" Obviously I have no understanding whatever of the meaning of 'rational' but then they have no understanding of 'infringe' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted October 19, 2020 at 03:52 PM Share Posted October 19, 2020 at 03:52 PM There are gun owners who will vote for Biden because orange man bad. It's maddening. A few right here even! ^Even worse, because Orange Man isn't perfect... Mostly because he says mean things. He's just mean. Did you hear what he said about that reporter? Seems like a perfect reason to vote for the other guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagloo Posted October 19, 2020 at 04:42 PM Share Posted October 19, 2020 at 04:42 PM Well I think that's the dilemma. I personally think Trump is a social idiot, and he provides it every day on Twitter. We need someone brave enough to steal his phone every morning and smash on the ground. That said, what some people don't get is, we don't have to necessarily like our representatives, or even endorse their behavior, but as long as they are on the same side of issues - And, are against those I don't agree with, I am absolutely going to vote in kind. Simple as that. Just because I vote Orange Man doesn't mean I'm going to invite him over for dinner, or stand in line to shake his hand. Imho, this entire thing that you have to love your rep as a person to support them is nutty. I look at him as a tool, or a warrior. Provided they are fighting my battles, that's all I care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriumphRider Posted October 26, 2020 at 09:42 PM Share Posted October 26, 2020 at 09:42 PM I'm going to have to go with..... "No". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted October 26, 2020 at 09:52 PM Share Posted October 26, 2020 at 09:52 PM If AR-15's could cast Democrat ballots, we would be fined for not owning one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted October 26, 2020 at 11:57 PM Share Posted October 26, 2020 at 11:57 PM "We should be passing rational gun laws"[/size] Obviously I have no understanding whatever of the meaning of 'rational' but then they have no understanding of 'infringe'Is 2 shotgun blasts from the balcony as Biden advised rational? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshot Posted October 27, 2020 at 04:11 PM Share Posted October 27, 2020 at 04:11 PM How politicians blur fact/fiction:From the Biden-Harris website: Joe Biden knows that gun violence is a public health epidemic. Almost 40,000 people die as a result of firearm injuries every year in the United States From the CDC document they use to justify that number:Suicides by firearms: 23,854Homicides by firearms: 14,542Accidental discharge: 486 By preceding 1 truthful statement about deaths that can be associated with firearms in any way with the phrase "gun violence" they give the impression 40,00 people a year are dying by gun violence. They don't lie by omission, they lie by implication. It's still a lie.I was acquainted with a few people who've committed suicide in the past several years, none of them used a gun. One was hanging, one jumped off a 24 story building another stopped on the highway and ran out in front of a semi. Guess we're going to have to ban a lot of man made objects to eliminate those suicide numbers. Let's bring back the prohibition, nothing like getting drunk in your bathtub like Dolores O'Rioradan (Cranberries singer, and no I don't think it was intentional). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted October 27, 2020 at 04:14 PM Share Posted October 27, 2020 at 04:14 PM Well I think that's the dilemma. I personally think Trump is a social idiot, and he provides it every day on Twitter. We need someone brave enough to steal his phone every morning and smash on the ground. That said, what some people don't get is, we don't have to necessarily like our representatives, or even endorse their behavior, but as long as they are on the same side of issues - And, are against those I don't agree with, I am absolutely going to vote in kind. Simple as that. Just because I vote Orange Man doesn't mean I'm going to invite him over for dinner, or stand in line to shake his hand. Imho, this entire thing that you have to love your rep as a person to support them is nutty. I look at him as a tool, or a warrior. Provided they are fighting my battles, that's all I care about. But...but....Come on man!! I look at Trump this way...Come for the policies...stay for the entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshot Posted October 27, 2020 at 04:15 PM Share Posted October 27, 2020 at 04:15 PM I joined a bi-partisan, pro-2A (to varying degrees) gun discussion group. I brought this up, it's astonishing how much bias can interfere with the writing on the wall, I had one person tell me, "he's not really going to do that". Along with the apathy that I run into in the ammo section at places like Rural King when I try to talk with someone about some bad legislation that's on the horizon, it's amazing to me that we've held things together at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted October 27, 2020 at 04:21 PM Share Posted October 27, 2020 at 04:21 PM nothing like getting drunk in your bathtub like Dolores O'Rioradan (Cranberries singer, and no I don't think it was intentional). I thought that was a heroin OD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagloo Posted October 27, 2020 at 05:56 PM Share Posted October 27, 2020 at 05:56 PM Can't we just outlaw suicide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted October 27, 2020 at 06:36 PM Share Posted October 27, 2020 at 06:36 PM Can't we just outlaw suicide?Not unless you have signage posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagloo Posted October 27, 2020 at 09:04 PM Share Posted October 27, 2020 at 09:04 PM Can't we just outlaw suicide? Not unless you have signage posted. Will a tattoo suffice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted October 28, 2020 at 10:12 AM Share Posted October 28, 2020 at 10:12 AM Only short barrel rifles are allowed in Illinois, with a C+R license. The state would have to allow all the new NFA items through legislation.Not gonna happen, banned. Give them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted October 28, 2020 at 12:35 PM Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 at 12:35 PM Can't we just outlaw suicide?If your a danger to yourself they can detain you, and take away your arms, kinda makes it illegal, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagloo Posted October 28, 2020 at 02:09 PM Share Posted October 28, 2020 at 02:09 PM Can't we just outlaw suicide? If your a danger to yourself they can detain you, and take away your arms, kinda makes it illegal, no? LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted October 28, 2020 at 03:17 PM Share Posted October 28, 2020 at 03:17 PM Can't we just outlaw suicide?The DNC recognizes your pre-existing basic human right to commit suicide, as long as you do not use a firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted October 28, 2020 at 03:18 PM Share Posted October 28, 2020 at 03:18 PM Can't we just outlaw suicide? Not unless you have signage posted. Will a tattoo suffice? I've lost count of mine. Lets add another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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