InterestedBystander Posted July 26, 2017 at 01:43 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 01:43 AM Full story at link... http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-kim-foxx-gun-convictions-met-20170725-story.html ..."Touching on an issue often raised by police when discussing Chicago's ongoing problem with gun violence, Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx said Tuesday that she was "stunned" to learn how few gun cases that go to trial result in convictions. Foxx, in an interview with the Tribune's editorial board eight months into her job, said her office is working with law enforcement officials to collect better intelligence and build stronger cases against gun offenders. Foxx also pledged to be more transparent than her predecessors in leveraging community involvement and data-driven approaches to help reduce crime. She said officials from her office will meet with Chicago police on a monthly basis to share the data on cases and strategize how to build stronger cases. "What we realized is there's a big disconnect police finish, they clear their case, they drop it off and they move on to the next. We have our cases, we either win or lose and we move on to the next," Foxx said."... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted July 26, 2017 at 01:55 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 01:55 AM She is clueless and in incompetent. She is a typical Incompetent Chicago political hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:03 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:03 AM Help me to understand. We have a state's attorney who hates guns. Prosecutors are judged by their conviction rate. Promotions and raises depend on it. So cases that are weak, they plea down. If they don't think they'll win, they plea down. So the overwhelming vast majority of cases end with a guilty plea, to a plea bargain, usually a slap on the wrist. Look at the straw buyer who had a $600 fine and probation. No jail time, 4 guns given to gangbangers. In addition, if they DO somehow manage to get a gun case to trial, we have Cook County judges hesistant to actually jail anyone because of prison overcrowding. So that means prosecutors have even MORE reason to plea bargain and give slaps on the wrist plea bargains. And she's SHOCKED at this happening?She's a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:43 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:43 AM Help me to understand. We have a state's attorney who hates guns. Prosecutors are judged by their conviction rate. Promotions and raises depend on it. So cases that are weak, they plea down. If they don't think they'll win, they plea down. So the overwhelming vast majority of cases end with a guilty plea, to a plea bargain, usually a slap on the wrist. Look at the straw buyer who had a $600 fine and probation. No jail time, 4 guns given to gangbangers. In addition, if they DO somehow manage to get a gun case to trial, we have Cook County judges hesistant to actually jail anyone because of prison overcrowding. So that means prosecutors have even MORE reason to plea bargain and give slaps on the wrist plea bargains. And she's SHOCKED at this happening? She's a hypocrite.She's clueless. If she were to read your post, and be able to understand it, it would increase her knowledge of the situation by oh,,,, say 10,000%. But she won't read it and wouldn't understand half of what you explained anyway. So, she'll remain the clueless, incompetent political hack. Drawing a very nice salary paid by your tax dollars by the way. AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:27 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:27 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_Acker Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:28 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:28 AM "According to Foxx, about 80 percent of those charged with gun crimes in 2016 pleaded guilty" I wonder what the average sentence was for those who pled guilty. I'm willing to bet that it wasn't more than 1/4 of the maximum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnertb Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:34 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:34 AM $-well obviously we need more gun laws-$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted July 26, 2017 at 11:47 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 11:47 AM for the children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:47 PM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:47 PM Yep she's stunned all right.........Last month a known gang member gets popped with handgun (380) in glove box loaded.Leo's doc everythingHe has record of having a 380 before in previous gun crimes (surprised?)He states during pre trial that it's not his, knows not how it was placed there. Blah, Blah, Blah.......She comes out with a statement that she's taking his word on this and drops charges....what?SCC had a blog on it, Cabrini Fox takes word of know gangbanger with handgun over Leo's in Crook County. SMH Only in Illinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:09 PM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:09 PM "According to Foxx, about 80 percent of those charged with gun crimes in 2016 pleaded guilty" I wonder what the average sentence was for those who pled guilty. I'm willing to bet that it wasn't more than 1/4 of the maximum.I'm willing to bet probation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:42 PM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:42 PM Yep she's stunned all right.........Last month a known gang member gets popped with handgun (380) in glove box loaded.Leo's doc everythingHe has record of having a 380 before in previous gun crimes (surprised?)He states during pre trial that it's not his, knows not how it was placed there. Blah, Blah, Blah.......She comes out with a statement that she's taking his word on this and drops charges....what?SCC had a blog on it, Cabrini Fox takes word of know gangbanger with handgun over Leo's in Crook County. SMH Only in Illinois You've got to wonder which side she's on. Even with a CCL, I'm willing to bet that if I had a gun in my glove box but didn't have my CCL on me when it was discovered, they'd prosecute me and ruin my life if they possibly could. But...a gang banger with a gun...NO PROBLEMO! Must be bad cops and "racism". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:59 PM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 03:59 PM "According to Foxx, about 80 percent of those charged with gun crimes in 2016 pleaded guilty" I wonder what the average sentence was for those who pled guilty. I'm willing to bet that it wasn't more than 1/4 of the maximum.I'm willing to bet probation. Plead guilty today Be home tomorrow !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teufel Hunden Posted July 26, 2017 at 04:17 PM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 04:17 PM "According to Foxx, about 80 percent of those charged with gun crimes in 2016 pleaded guilty" I wonder what the average sentence was for those who pled guilty. I'm willing to bet that it wasn't more than 1/4 of the maximum. I'm willing to bet probation.Plead guilty today Be home tomorrow !!Their conviction rate is outstanding, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted July 26, 2017 at 05:35 PM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 05:35 PM Sounds like she holds all the credentials necessary for a position in the Crook Co. system. Is there anyone in it actually competent to do their actual job successfully? I can't think of 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted July 26, 2017 at 07:48 PM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 07:48 PM She is clueless and in incompetent. She is a typical Incompetent Chicago political hack.Clueless, or a very good liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonP Posted July 28, 2017 at 02:12 PM Share Posted July 28, 2017 at 02:12 PM She is clueless and in incompetent. She is a typical Incompetent Chicago political hack.Ah yes, but following Rahm's screw up of the whole Laquan McDonald thing, she's the right level of competency and complexion to shut a major voting bloc up for a while. Results aren't nearly as important as the optics of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted July 29, 2017 at 05:26 AM Share Posted July 29, 2017 at 05:26 AM "According to Foxx, about 80 percent of those charged with gun crimes in 2016 pleaded guilty" I wonder what the average sentence was for those who pled guilty. I'm willing to bet that it wasn't more than 1/4 of the maximum.I'm willing to bet probation. I'm willing to bet fines. More money for cronies. C'mon, we gotta pay for all those ghost payrollers and no bid contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago_Shooter09 Posted July 30, 2017 at 05:37 PM Share Posted July 30, 2017 at 05:37 PM Yep she's stunned all right.........Last month a known gang member gets popped with handgun (380) in glove box loaded.Leo's doc everythingHe has record of having a 380 before in previous gun crimes (surprised?)He states during pre trial that it's not his, knows not how it was placed there. Blah, Blah, Blah.......She comes out with a statement that she's taking his word on this and drops charges....what?SCC had a blog on it, Cabrini Fox takes word of know gangbanger with handgun over Leo's in Crook County. SMH Only in Illinois You've got to wonder which side she's on. Even with a CCL, I'm willing to bet that if I had a gun in my glove box but didn't have my CCL on me when it was discovered, they'd prosecute me and ruin my life if they possibly could. But...a gang banger with a gun...NO PROBLEMO! Must be bad cops and "racism". The way I was told, the person arrested for the gun in the glove box was neither the driver nor the owner of the vehicle. Was the gun his? Maybe, but unless there was more info that would be a near impossible case to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted July 31, 2017 at 03:46 PM Share Posted July 31, 2017 at 03:46 PM Yep she's stunned all right.........Last month a known gang member gets popped with handgun (380) in glove box loaded.Leo's doc everythingHe has record of having a 380 before in previous gun crimes (surprised?)He states during pre trial that it's not his, knows not how it was placed there. Blah, Blah, Blah.......She comes out with a statement that she's taking his word on this and drops charges....what?SCC had a blog on it, Cabrini Fox takes word of know gangbanger with handgun over Leo's in Crook County. SMH Only in Illinois You've got to wonder which side she's on. Even with a CCL, I'm willing to bet that if I had a gun in my glove box but didn't have my CCL on me when it was discovered, they'd prosecute me and ruin my life if they possibly could. But...a gang banger with a gun...NO PROBLEMO! Must be bad cops and "racism". The way I was told, the person arrested for the gun in the glove box was neither the driver nor the owner of the vehicle. Was the gun his? Maybe, but unless there was more info that would be a near impossible case to make. That does make things a little different. I'm curious...are his fingerprints on the gun? Isn't keeping an armed gang banger off the streets worth doing that level of investigation? Not in the city, I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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