flw Posted June 16, 2018 at 07:58 AM Share Posted June 16, 2018 at 07:58 AM Generally can I carry in Illinois State parks? Secondly can I carry in Rock Cut and Lowden state parks specifically. Thanks for any information. DanO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 16, 2018 at 08:41 AM Share Posted June 16, 2018 at 08:41 AM From the DNR website; On what IDNR properties may an Illinois Concealed Carry Permit holder carry a concealed firearm? Illinois Concealed Carry Permit holders may carry a concealed firearm on any IDNR real property (including bike trails, trails, or any other designated public hunting area or building where firearm possession is permitted by the IDNR) with the following exceptions: All IDNR Office buildings, including but not limited to the Joel D. Brunsvold Building (IDNR Springfield Headquarters Building), IDNR Regional Office buildings, IDNR State Museum buildings, and any other IDNR building marked with the ISP-approved sign prohibiting firearms. All firearms, including concealed firearms, are also prohibited on all IDNR State Refuge areas, IDNR Dedicated Nature Preserves, and IDNR children playground areas. When visiting any of these locations, Concealed Carry Permit holders are required to secure their concealed firearms in their vehicle in accordance with the Illinois Concealed Carry Act. Can an Illinois Concealed Carry Permit holder possess a concealed firearm on or in a watercraft, off-highway vehicle, or snowmobile? Yes, but only if the watercraft, off-highway vehicle, or snowmobile is operated in an area not prohibited under the Concealed Carry Act. So where is "firearm possession ... permitted by the IDNR" ? My understanding is any IDNR state park that is not a wildlife preserve, is not in Cook County, and is not a designated hunting area for deer or turkey (whether in season or not). I don't know anything specifically about the parks you mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOCK22 Posted June 16, 2018 at 07:39 PM Share Posted June 16, 2018 at 07:39 PM Short answer is yes, unless it's a posted building, which Rock Cut has none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vern Posted June 17, 2018 at 05:36 PM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 05:36 PM From the DNR website;On what IDNR properties may an Illinois Concealed Carry Permit holder carry a concealed firearm?Illinois Concealed Carry Permit holders may carry a concealed firearm on any IDNR real property (including bike trails, trails, or any other designated public hunting area or building where firearm possession is permitted by the IDNR) with the following exceptions: All IDNR Office buildings, including but not limited to the Joel D. Brunsvold Building (IDNR Springfield Headquarters Building), IDNR Regional Office buildings, IDNR State Museum buildings, and any other IDNR building marked with the ISP-approved sign prohibiting firearms. All firearms, including concealed firearms, are also prohibited on all IDNR State Refuge areas, IDNR Dedicated Nature Preserves, and IDNR children playground areas. When visiting any of these locations, Concealed Carry Permit holders are required to secure their concealed firearms in their vehicle in accordance with the Illinois Concealed Carry Act.Can an Illinois Concealed Carry Permit holder possess a concealed firearm on or in a watercraft, off-highway vehicle, or snowmobile?Yes, but only if the watercraft, off-highway vehicle, or snowmobile is operated in an area not prohibited under the Concealed Carry Act.So where is "firearm possession ... permitted by the IDNR" ?My understanding is any IDNR state park that is not a wildlife preserve, is not in Cook County, and is not a designated hunting area for deer or turkey (whether in season or not).I don't know anything specifically about the parks you mention.I have asked the rangers at our local wildlife preserve and was told carry was ok. In fact they recommended it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solareclipse2 Posted June 17, 2018 at 06:50 PM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 06:50 PM My understanding is any IDNR state park that is not a wildlife preserve, is not in Cook County, and is not a designated hunting area for deer or turkey (whether in season or not). What does being in Cook County have to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 17, 2018 at 06:52 PM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 06:52 PM I have asked the rangers at our local wildlife preserve and was told carry was ok. In fact they recommended it Interesting. I always thought it was an anti-poaching thing. I forget where I saw it originally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 17, 2018 at 06:52 PM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 06:52 PM My understanding is any IDNR state park that is not a wildlife preserve, is not in Cook County, and is not a designated hunting area for deer or turkey (whether in season or not). What does being in Cook County have to do with it? Cook is Cook. They're special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solareclipse2 Posted June 17, 2018 at 07:05 PM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 07:05 PM My understanding is any IDNR state park that is not a wildlife preserve, is not in Cook County, and is not a designated hunting area for deer or turkey (whether in season or not). What does being in Cook County have to do with it? Cook is Cook. They're special. But seriously, there's nothing that makes carrying in a STATE park illegal just because it happens to be in Cook County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted June 17, 2018 at 10:12 PM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 10:12 PM Cook is Cook. They're special. But seriously, there's nothing that makes carrying in a STATE park illegal just because it happens to be in Cook County. I think the ban on carry in Cook County Forest Preserve confuses a lot of folks with carrying in state parks in Cook County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted June 17, 2018 at 10:29 PM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 10:29 PM If you just pulled over and walked to the woods, how would you even know it's CCFPD? In Michigan, if I wanted to keep someone from hunting on my land I had to post a no hunting sign every 100 feet or so. I don't recall the exact distance but you also had the choice of painting trees purple if you don't want to post a sign. Cook County should post no gun signs every 100 feet or paint trees purple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted June 18, 2018 at 01:16 AM Share Posted June 18, 2018 at 01:16 AM What if you plant purple trees? Does that count? Like a purple plum or a wisteria? http://www.illinoiscarry.com/forum/uploads/monthly_06_2018/post-3474-0-12066800-1529284421.jpghttp://www.illinoiscarry.com/forum/uploads/monthly_06_2018/post-3474-0-78629600-1529284450.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted June 18, 2018 at 04:18 AM Share Posted June 18, 2018 at 04:18 AM I didn't realize that Illinois is a purple paint state too. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-10-17/news/ct-met-purple-paint-law-20111017_1_tree-farmer-hunters-long-arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buff1968 Posted June 18, 2018 at 11:09 AM Share Posted June 18, 2018 at 11:09 AM From the DNR website;On what IDNR properties may an Illinois Concealed Carry Permit holder carry a concealed firearm?Illinois Concealed Carry Permit holders may carry a concealed firearm on any IDNR real property (including bike trails, trails, or any other designated public hunting area or building where firearm possession is permitted by the IDNR) with the following exceptions: All IDNR Office buildings, including but not limited to the Joel D. Brunsvold Building (IDNR Springfield Headquarters Building), IDNR Regional Office buildings, IDNR State Museum buildings, and any other IDNR building marked with the ISP-approved sign prohibiting firearms. All firearms, including concealed firearms, are also prohibited on all IDNR State Refuge areas, IDNR Dedicated Nature Preserves, and IDNR children playground areas. When visiting any of these locations, Concealed Carry Permit holders are required to secure their concealed firearms in their vehicle in accordance with the Illinois Concealed Carry Act.Can an Illinois Concealed Carry Permit holder possess a concealed firearm on or in a watercraft, off-highway vehicle, or snowmobile?Yes, but only if the watercraft, off-highway vehicle, or snowmobile is operated in an area not prohibited under the Concealed Carry Act.So where is "firearm possession ... permitjted by the IDNR" ?My understanding is any IDNR state park that is not a wildlife preserve, is not in Cook County, and is not a designated hunting area for deer or turkey (whether in season or not).I don't know anything specifically about the parks you mention.[/quote It appears that CC is allowed in designated hunting areas except when deer or turkey season is open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted June 18, 2018 at 08:17 PM Share Posted June 18, 2018 at 08:17 PM It appears that CC is allowed in designated hunting areas except when deer or turkey season is open. It is illegal to conceal carry while you're hunting (which makes zero sense...but this is Illinois). I don't know if it's illegal to carry in hunting areas if it's hunting season and you're not hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civilone Posted June 18, 2018 at 10:21 PM Share Posted June 18, 2018 at 10:21 PM From Illinois DNR Q & A: Under the current regulations, Concealed Carry Permit holders are not allowed to possess any firearm, including a concealed firearm, when deer or turkey hunting unless the firearm carried is legal for taking the species being hunted. For example, an archery deer hunter would not be able to carry any firearm, whether concealed or not, when archery deer hunting. However, if a concealed carry permit holder is hunting deer during the legal “firearm” deer seasons, he/she may carry a concealed firearm, but only if that firearm is of the legal type for firearm deer hunting. It is not unlawful for a Concealed Carry Permit hunter to possess a concealed firearm in their vehicle. The specifications for legal deer hunting handguns can be found on page 17 of the 2013-2014 Illinois Digest of Hunting and Trapping Regulations at the following link; http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/hunting/Pages/HuntingTrappingDigests.aspx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted June 19, 2018 at 12:00 AM Share Posted June 19, 2018 at 12:00 AM What if you plant purple trees? Does that count? Like a purple plum or a wisteria? http://www.illinoiscarry.com/forum/uploads/monthly_06_2018/post-3474-0-12066800-1529284421.jpghttp://www.illinoiscarry.com/forum/uploads/monthly_06_2018/post-3474-0-78629600-1529284450.jpg Ya..but..but..Come fall...it would suddenly 'not count'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted June 19, 2018 at 02:25 PM Share Posted June 19, 2018 at 02:25 PM From Illinois DNR Q & A: Under the current regulations, Concealed Carry Permit holders are not allowed to possess any firearm, including a concealed firearm, when deer or turkey hunting unless the firearm carried is legal for taking the species being hunted. For example, an archery deer hunter would not be able to carry any firearm, whether concealed or not, when archery deer hunting. However, if a concealed carry permit holder is hunting deer during the legal “firearm” deer seasons, he/she may carry a concealed firearm, but only if that firearm is of the legal type for firearm deer hunting. It is not unlawful for a Concealed Carry Permit hunter to possess a concealed firearm in their vehicle. The specifications for legal deer hunting handguns can be found on page 17 of the 2013-2014 Illinois Digest of Hunting and Trapping Regulations at the following link; http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/hunting/Pages/HuntingTrappingDigests.aspx.So if you're deer hunting with a bow and you take a shot and drop the deer but it's not a kill shot you are not aloud to put the deer out of its misery with a single handgun round? What do you do, wait for it to bleed out? Another arrow close up? Seems to me a handgun would be the proper tool for this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraInstructor Posted June 19, 2018 at 04:34 PM Share Posted June 19, 2018 at 04:34 PM I don't see how they can do this legally... Molly??? "I'll firearms, including concealed firearms, are also prohibited on all IDNR State Refuge areas, IDNR Dedicated Nature Preserves, and IDNR children playground areas. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangrel Posted June 19, 2018 at 05:13 PM Share Posted June 19, 2018 at 05:13 PM From Illinois DNR Q & A: Under the current regulations, Concealed Carry Permit holders are not allowed to possess any firearm, including a concealed firearm, when deer or turkey hunting unless the firearm carried is legal for taking the species being hunted. For example, an archery deer hunter would not be able to carry any firearm, whether concealed or not, when archery deer hunting. However, if a concealed carry permit holder is hunting deer during the legal “firearm” deer seasons, he/she may carry a concealed firearm, but only if that firearm is of the legal type for firearm deer hunting. It is not unlawful for a Concealed Carry Permit hunter to possess a concealed firearm in their vehicle. The specifications for legal deer hunting handguns can be found on page 17 of the 2013-2014 Illinois Digest of Hunting and Trapping Regulations at the following link; http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/hunting/Pages/HuntingTrappingDigests.aspx. So if you're deer hunting with a bow and you take a shot and drop the deer but it's not a kill shot you are not aloud to put the deer out of its misery with a single handgun round? What do you do, wait for it to bleed out? Another arrow close up? Seems to me a handgun would be the proper tool for this situation.Logically? Absolutely does not make sense. But this has been the law for a long time. Gotta' keep all those law-abiding hunters from poaching, you know... Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous too Posted June 19, 2018 at 08:02 PM Share Posted June 19, 2018 at 08:02 PM It appears that CC is allowed in designated hunting areas except when deer or turkey season is open. It is illegal to conceal carry while you're hunting (which makes zero sense...but this is Illinois). I don't know if it's illegal to carry in hunting areas if it's hunting season and you're not hunting. Can't CC while deer and turkey hunting or while dog training, even on your own property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous too Posted June 19, 2018 at 08:05 PM Share Posted June 19, 2018 at 08:05 PM So if you're deer hunting with a bow and you take a shot and drop the deer but it's not a kill shot you are not aloud to put the deer out of its misery with a single handgun round? What do you do, wait for it to bleed out? Deer don't "drop" from even the best placed arrow. They run a little, lay down, and pass out due to lack of blood flow. So yes they actually bleed out, but they don't know it. They just pass out and die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted June 20, 2018 at 04:36 PM Share Posted June 20, 2018 at 04:36 PM So if you're deer hunting with a bow and you take a shot and drop the deer but it's not a kill shot you are not aloud to put the deer out of its misery with a single handgun round? What do you do, wait for it to bleed out? Deer don't "drop" from even the best placed arrow. They run a little, lay down, and pass out due to lack of blood flow. So yes they actually bleed out, but they don't know it. They just pass out and die. Thanks for the info. I never knew a "well placed" arrow wouldn't drop a deer. Obviously I've never bow hunted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted June 20, 2018 at 06:26 PM Share Posted June 20, 2018 at 06:26 PM ROck cut is fine, I know the IDNR guys and they are all 2nd amendment guys. Also, there is a building at ROck Cut which you may not carry into... the admin building called the "Office" on signage. Do not carry in the office as it is prohibited. JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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