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#1 InterestedBystander

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Posted 23 October 2019 - 09:56 AM

full story at link...

https://www.thecente...82b02d342c.html

..."Federal judge declines Illinois' request to dismiss lawsuit that would force more gun restrictions
By Cole Lauterbach | The Center Square 4 hrs ago

A federal lawsuit could force Illinois to enact even tougher gun laws.

U.S. 7th District Court Judge Joan Gottschall dismissed an attempt by the state to dismiss Powell v. State of Illinois last month.

The case was filed last year by the representatives of children in some of Chicagos most crime-stricken neighborhoods, saying they experienced post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, in a demographically more significant way than others in the state. This, the plaintiffs say, is a violation of the American with Disabilities Act as well as the Illinois Civil Rights Act.

Forty percent of the guns recovered on crime scenes on the streets of Chicago are traced to Illinois gun dealers, said Tom Johnson, the Chicago-based lawyer representing the plaintiffs. Those gun dealers have been, and continue to be, unregulated.

The Illinois gun dealer licensing law, currently in the process of being implemented by Illinois State Police, placed some of the nations most stringent requirements on licensed firearms sellers.

The state asked the judge last week to dismiss the case since lawmakers passed the Firearm Dealer License Certification Act, satisfying a number of the plaintiffs requests in their initial suit.

The discussion above shows that, in passing the License Certification Act and in implementing new rules under that Act, the State and the State Police have adopted precisely the kinds of rules plaintiffs are asking the Court to order through injunctive relief, the state told Gottschall in a request.

Johnson says the new law doesnt go far enough to satisfy his clients, even if it survives legal scrutiny brought by the Illinois State Rifle Association"...

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Posted 23 October 2019 - 10:12 AM

Of course it does not go far enough because we still have gun shops open and selling firearms, ammunition, etc.  People still legally own guns, so there you go - the laws do not go far enough.

 

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Posted 23 October 2019 - 11:36 AM

This judge should be impeached and removed!


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Posted 23 October 2019 - 12:29 PM

*delete*

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Posted 23 October 2019 - 12:33 PM

Should this thread be merged into this one?

Or should I just say: IN ?

Edited by Euler, 23 October 2019 - 12:34 PM.

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Posted 23 October 2019 - 02:21 PM

Thought this sounded familiar but searching for names before posting  did not find the thread.

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Posted 23 October 2019 - 03:19 PM

They are blaming the state and guns and law abiding gun owners for the actions of gang members who are not gonna obey any new laws either.
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#8 FST_Kent

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Posted 23 October 2019 - 07:22 PM

Doesn't this put the state on record saying we don't need more gun control laws?



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Posted 23 October 2019 - 07:28 PM

 

 

 Those gun dealers have been, and continue to be, unregulated.

 

Bull.

 

They're regulated by the Feds and now the state.   

 

Rule #1 Antis lie.

 

Rule #2 If an anti appears to tell the truth, see rule 1.


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Posted 23 October 2019 - 10:25 PM

Those gun dealers have been, and continue to be, unregulated.

 

Bull.

 

They're regulated by the Feds and now the state.   

 

Rule #1 Antis lie.

 

Rule #2 If an anti appears to tell the truth, see rule 1.

 

That reminds me of the episode "I, Mudd" from Star Trek: The Original Series where they defeated the androids with "illogic".  The part I'm referring to starts at the 4 minute mark.

 


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Posted 24 October 2019 - 12:02 PM

 

the plaintiffs say, is a violation of the American with Disabilities Act as well as the Illinois Civil Rights Act.

What about our constitutional right to keep and bear arms?  Or don't those count?


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