Jwg43 Posted July 22, 2015 at 02:35 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 02:35 PM Thought you might find this interesting, saw it this morning on a legal news feed. Arlington Heights settles case for failure to return guns to the tune of $185,000. http://wgil.com/v3/2015/07/22/illinois-village-reaches-185k-settlement-with-gun-collector/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted July 22, 2015 at 02:38 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 02:38 PM Thought you might find this interesting, saw it this morning on a legal news feed. Arlington Heights settles case for failure to return guns to the tune of $185,000. http://wgil.com/v3/2015/07/22/illinois-village-reaches-185k-settlement-with-gun-collector/ And $175,000 of it goes to his attorney LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeghl Posted July 22, 2015 at 03:01 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 03:01 PM You know, in cases like that, part of the settlement should be that the official responsible for the transgression gets fired, and their house confiscated, sold and used for the pay out. Bet there'd be a whole lot less of this kind of crap happening then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots & Tyrants Posted July 22, 2015 at 03:15 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 03:15 PM Jesus Christmas I think he got the wrong lawyer if that much is going to his attorney. Its a win for us but damn dude, barley worth your time except on an ideological level for that little cash. Civil rights are cheap these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Normal Posted July 22, 2015 at 03:19 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 03:19 PM OMG! $185,000 judgment with 95% going to the lawyers. Glad he won but it's really the lawyers that won. Sent from my SM-T320 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted July 22, 2015 at 03:43 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 03:43 PM Thought you might find this interesting, saw it this morning on a legal news feed. Arlington Heights settles case for failure to return guns to the tune of $185,000. http://wgil.com/v3/2015/07/22/illinois-village-reaches-185k-settlement-with-gun-collector/ And $175,000 of it goes to his attorney LOL. Yes. But hopefully it will make cities think twice about undertaking this type of illegal action in the future. They had to write a big check, and they probably would prefer not to do that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solareclipse2 Posted July 22, 2015 at 03:46 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 03:46 PM I'd say that he got the right lawyers considering he got a settlement. I'd say that the cost of a good attorney is insane though but I guess they paid for themselves. Depending on the guns he lost, 15k might be enough to buy replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonap Posted July 22, 2015 at 04:34 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 04:34 PM I'd say that he got the right lawyers considering he got a settlement. I'd say that the cost of a good attorney is insane though but I guess they paid for themselves. Depending on the guns he lost, 15k might be enough to buy replacements. But the article says he did get the firearms returned. "...A mental health assessment determined Lovi wasn’t a danger to himself or others, but the village’s police department didn’t return the weapons for another two months...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Normal Posted July 22, 2015 at 04:39 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 04:39 PM Thought you might find this interesting, saw it this morning on a legal news feed. Arlington Heights settles case for failure to return guns to the tune of $185,000. $175,000 of it goes to his attorney LOL.Yes. But hopefully it will make cities think twice about undertaking this type of illegal action in the future. They had to write a big check, and they probably would prefer not to do that again. Municipal leaders don't care. It's not money out of THEIR pockets. It's the taxpayers that will pay, in potentially higher taxes and fees. Sent from my SM-T320 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted July 22, 2015 at 05:04 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 05:04 PM The way I'm reading it the $10,000 was for punitive damages and $175,000 was for attorney fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots & Tyrants Posted July 22, 2015 at 06:00 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 06:00 PM http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150720/news/150729868/ It was a Musket and two old revolers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipp Jones Posted July 22, 2015 at 06:06 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 06:06 PM Tax payers loose and foot the bill. Someone should have lost their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911 .45 Posted July 22, 2015 at 06:48 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 06:48 PM Thought you might find this interesting, saw it this morning on a legal news feed. Arlington Heights settles case for failure to return guns to the tune of $185,000. $175,000 of it goes to his attorney LOL.Yes. But hopefully it will make cities think twice about undertaking this type of illegal action in the future. They had to write a big check, and they probably would prefer not to do that again.Municipal leaders don't care. It's not money out of THEIR pockets. It's the taxpayers that will pay, in potentially higher taxes and fees. Sent from my SM-T320 using Tapatalk Very true. Just ask Rham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videopaul Posted July 22, 2015 at 08:05 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 08:05 PM Lombard PD waited SEVEN MONTHS to send my CCL and FOID to the state, something that the ISP told me they are required to do immediately. Perhaps a pinned topic listing communities and their police departments who feel that our rights can be infringed readily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots & Tyrants Posted July 22, 2015 at 08:59 PM Share Posted July 22, 2015 at 08:59 PM The sad part is at first the last ruling ordered the individual officers involved to pay 70K each, maybe if that had stood then we might see some change as officers refuse orders which violate the constitutional rights of gun owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpapageorgio Posted July 23, 2015 at 06:00 AM Share Posted July 23, 2015 at 06:00 AM Thought you might find this interesting, saw it this morning on a legal news feed. Arlington Heights settles case for failure to return guns to the tune of $185,000. http://wgil.com/v3/2015/07/22/illinois-village-reaches-185k-settlement-with-gun-collector/ And $175,000 of it goes to his attorney LOL. And to think people wonder why I'm in law school. And yes, to a city like Chicago, that would be a drop in the bucket so they would't miss it. But if a smaller village had to pay that, don't think there wouldn't be blow back if a village had to propose raising taxes/fees because they had to pay out a few of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted July 24, 2015 at 07:04 PM Share Posted July 24, 2015 at 07:04 PM The way I read it, the judgment was entered against the officers themselves and not the Village. Three police officers have been found guilty (by a jury, no less) of blatantly infringing upon the constitutional rights of a private citizen as well as damaging his property after it had been illegally seized. The Village isn't on the hook for this, the officers are as they were sued for actions under individual capacity. Likely the Village, Chief of Police, etc were also named under official capacity and were dropped as defendants somewhere along the line. Bottom line, the officers are personally liable, they will be paying the plaintiff, not the Village. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solareclipse2 Posted July 24, 2015 at 07:45 PM Share Posted July 24, 2015 at 07:45 PM http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150720/news/150729868/ It was a Musket and two old revolers. Hmm. I wonder if that makes the settlement better or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradS Posted July 24, 2015 at 07:46 PM Share Posted July 24, 2015 at 07:46 PM If you have seen the Collinsville Police Officer Michael Reichert videos on YouTube and then read whatever follow up articles, you'll see that it is the city's insurance company that made the payout. In this particular case, I am assuming the village's insurance also paid out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted July 24, 2015 at 07:52 PM Share Posted July 24, 2015 at 07:52 PM The way I read it, the judgment was entered against the officers themselves and not the Village. Three police officers have been found guilty (by a jury, no less) of blatantly infringing upon the constitutional rights of a private citizen as well as damaging his property after it had been illegally seized. The Village isn't on the hook for this, the officers are as they were sued for actions under individual capacity. Likely the Village, Chief of Police, etc were also named under official capacity and were dropped as defendants somewhere along the line. Bottom line, the officers are personally liable, they will be paying the plaintiff, not the Village. The Daily Herald article indicates most of the settlement will be paid by Arlington Heights' insurance, and the village will pay the remainder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadWaterBill Posted July 25, 2015 at 01:38 AM Share Posted July 25, 2015 at 01:38 AM So the insurance co has to fork over the money guess what happens to the cities premiums for the next ??? years and the residents WILL see a big increase in their property taxes. If that lawyer was so smart why didn't he include the same clause that Otis and his crew had? Yes the city of Chiraq was responsible for ALL OF THEIR LEGAL FEES. And yes it did cost OVER $1,6 million taxpayer dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted July 25, 2015 at 06:25 PM Share Posted July 25, 2015 at 06:25 PM If that lawyer was so smart why didn't he include the same clause that Otis and his crew had? Yes the city of Chiraq was responsible for ALL OF THEIR LEGAL FEES.They did pay all of his legal fees, $175,000. Damages were just $10,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weldor Posted July 25, 2015 at 09:26 PM Share Posted July 25, 2015 at 09:26 PM Cops are kind of like welfare mothers you can not make them responsible for there actions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
222 rem mag Posted July 27, 2015 at 01:14 PM Share Posted July 27, 2015 at 01:14 PM Cops are kind of like welfare mothers you can not make them responsible for there actions Best comment ever. I seriously mean that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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