mab22 Posted April 1, 2020 at 04:49 AM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 04:49 AM Developing -https://grabien.com/story.php?id=281313 "Not only that, the people upstairs, do you know what the police officer told him? Why didn’t you run out the back door? And guess what. When we checked the back door there was a book bag with two rocks and a pole. If you would have ran out the back he would have met up with the three masked men and there he probably would have shot all three of them. Then what, do 60 years in jail? This is absurd.” Store was arlington smoke shop. Coverage of story here -https://video.foxnews.com/v/6146169559001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted April 1, 2020 at 05:14 AM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 05:14 AM NEVER say you shoot to warn !Only shoot because your life, or someone else’s life is endangered!Don’t talk to LE without attorney!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted April 1, 2020 at 05:35 AM Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 05:35 AM Don’t talk to LE without attorney!!In that situation - AMEN BROTHER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted April 1, 2020 at 07:44 AM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 07:44 AM Three masked men break into a private building where you are sleeping and YOU are arrested and held without bond because you shot and wounded one of them when they awakened you in your underwear??? Why do I smell Democrats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 1, 2020 at 12:08 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 12:08 PM https://wjla.com/news/local/arlington-employee-charged-shooting-robbers-owner-speaks-out ...The charges are malicious wounding, reckless handling of a firearm, and violation of a protective order. Arlington County Police say the third charge is because Abushariah had been ordered not to have a firearm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumgod Posted April 1, 2020 at 12:20 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 12:20 PM How/why was he "ordered" not to "have" a firearm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 1, 2020 at 12:31 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 12:31 PM It sounds like there was an order of protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted April 1, 2020 at 12:40 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 12:40 PM It seems that it was the store owners firearm and not his. Unless there is more to it than that (probably is), then as it sits right now, it looks like malicious prosecution.We need to see this evidence they have which they don't want to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 1, 2020 at 12:42 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 12:42 PM I don't see any dispute that the employee was in possession of the firearm when he fired it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted April 1, 2020 at 01:37 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 01:37 PM I don't see any dispute that the employee was in possession of the firearm when he fired it.If he knows where it is a d is faced with 3 masked home invaders, I would tend to term that an extenuating circumstance ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted April 1, 2020 at 01:40 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 01:40 PM .... but then again, I'm not a gun-hating, Constitution-ignoring Demonrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted April 1, 2020 at 01:58 PM Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 01:58 PM https://wjla.com/news/local/arlington-employee-charged-shooting-robbers-owner-speaks-out ...The charges are malicious wounding, reckless handling of a firearm, and violation of a protective order. Arlington County Police say the third charge is because Abushariah had been ordered not to have a firearm.... Looks like they were not HIS gun/guns, the store owner bought for protection of the store. So, if there is a firearm available are you not allowed to use it to protect yourself? Even Illinois stays you can give someone a firearm in the heat of the moment, provided they are allowed to possess one, which gets messy in a situation like this.This should be an interesting case “Aqrawi says he bought two firearms a few weeks ago because he was concerned someone would try to steal from his store during the coronavirus pandemic.“We bought protection for the store just in case, because on Facebook you see a lot of robberies, a lot of things going on,” Aqrawi said. “ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 1, 2020 at 02:22 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 02:22 PM I don't see any dispute that the employee was in possession of the firearm when he fired it. If he knows where it is a d is faced with 3 masked home invaders, I would tend to term that an extenuating circumstance ... I might even view it as competing harms but that's for the court to decide, not the responding officers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted April 1, 2020 at 04:38 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 04:38 PM I don't see any dispute that the employee was in possession of the firearm when he fired it.If he knows where it is a d is faced with 3 masked home invaders, I would tend to term that an extenuating circumstance ...I might even view it as competing harms but that's for the court to decide, not the responding officers. If he is being held without bail, it would seem that at least one court has already pre determined it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 1, 2020 at 04:44 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 04:44 PM If he is being held without bail, it would seem that at least one court has already pre determined it And you think there was some sort of plot to accomplish that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted April 1, 2020 at 04:56 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 04:56 PM If he is being held without bail, it would seem that at least one court has already pre determined itAnd you think there was some sort of plot to accomplish that?No. I think there are activist prosecutors and judges whose minds only work in one direction on certain subjects. Take, for example, the kid who was jailed without bail as a terrorist for having his range guns in the trunk on a college campus recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 1, 2020 at 04:59 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 04:59 PM No. I think there are activist prosecutors and judges whose minds only work in one direction on certain subjects. Take, for example, the kid who was jailed without bail as a terrorist for having his range guns in the trunk on a college campus recently. So pre-determined might not be the best way to describe the lack of bail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted April 1, 2020 at 05:02 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 05:02 PM No. I think there are activist prosecutors and judges whose minds only work in one direction on certain subjects. Take, for example, the kid who was jailed without bail as a terrorist for having his range guns in the trunk on a college campus recently.So pre-determined might not be the best way to describe the lack of bail?I didn't say that, either. Denying bond on a clear case of self-defense speaks volumes, unless the guy has a violent criminal history that hasn't been reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 1, 2020 at 05:08 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 05:08 PM I didn't say that, either. Denying bond on a clear case of self-defense speaks volumes, unless the guy has a violent criminal history that hasn't been reported."Pre-determined" was the term you used. Maybe we can agree that it's likely we don't have all the details, like that potentially violent past being unreported that you mentioned (though they did report the order of protection which implies the possibility of a violent past). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted April 4, 2020 at 03:24 AM Share Posted April 4, 2020 at 03:24 AM Considering the change in the political climate in Virginia (probably funded by Soros and Bloomie), this doesn't really surprise me that they would do something this heinous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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