seanc Posted August 10, 2020 at 03:09 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 03:09 PM A brief article about the legality of state mandated vaccinations. Long story-short: They have the legal authority: https://local12.com/news/coronavirus/could-employers-and-states-mandate-covid-19-vaccinations-heres-what-courts-have-ruled-cincinnati FTA: In the 1905 landmark case Jacobson v. Massachusetts, the United States Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of a state criminal law that required all adult inhabitants of Cambridge to get a smallpox vaccine or be fined. The Supreme Court explained that an individual’s liberty rights under the U.S. Constitution are not absolute and the mandatory vaccination law was necessary to promote public health and safety. I'm both impressed and appalled at the fact they did this in 1905. I'm not an anti-vaxer, but I do not want me nor my family to be 1st in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchenryill Posted August 10, 2020 at 03:32 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 03:32 PM I wouldn't trust the first batch either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted August 10, 2020 at 03:49 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 03:49 PM Whats the fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted August 10, 2020 at 04:17 PM Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 04:17 PM Whats the fine? ^My thought too. The only hook here might be the demonstrated vindictiveness these totalitarians have and make that fine a daily fine. Maybe I can pay the fine, but not daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted August 10, 2020 at 04:19 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 04:19 PM The current approximate death rate from COVID-19 today is .0321%, the overall fatality rate for ordinary-type smallpox was about 30%! You had a 1:3 chance of dying! Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScopeEye Posted August 10, 2020 at 04:32 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 04:32 PM Nope Nope Nope...My body my rules... You do know they want to include tracking chips in these injections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted August 10, 2020 at 04:39 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 04:39 PM The current approximate death rate from COVID-19 today is .0321%, the overall fatality rate for ordinary-type smallpox was about 30%! You had a 1:3 chance of dying! Big difference. Which is EXACTLY why any mandated COVID vaccination, forced vaccination law, would be challenged, and SHOULD be struck down. the 1905 decision even states: "But it is equally true that in every well-ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand." Ftality rate of 30% = great dangers, fatality rate of 0.0321% is NOT a great danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted August 10, 2020 at 04:40 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 04:40 PM Nope Nope Nope...My body my rules... You do know they want to include tracking chips in these injections So you're a pro choice guy... Tracking chips in vaccines is total fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANDY Posted August 10, 2020 at 05:30 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 05:30 PM Also add in the fact that all parties involved from the manufacturer to the person that administers the injection are free from any liability. Would have to file a damage petition with the vaccine injury court if something goes wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted August 10, 2020 at 05:39 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 05:39 PM The article headline says it all. "COULD" employers and states.......? Then later in the article "what if" and "can" Can governments require vaccinations? What if only some people must get vaccinated? This article is the news trying to MAKE news not report news. The quote marks are mine. The article leads to people discussing it however. Discussions are good. I will wait awhile after it is released to get mine......... Now we can quibble about how long I will wait. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted August 10, 2020 at 05:43 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 05:43 PM Nope Nope Nope...My body my rules... You do know they want to include tracking chips in these injectionsYep, my body my choice, rite? If it’s mandatory I’ll be happy to go to the back of the line, until I see the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted August 10, 2020 at 06:15 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 06:15 PM So you're a pro choice guy... Pro choices are the people pushing the mandatory vaccine, so they don't believe in "my body my choice" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted August 10, 2020 at 06:51 PM Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 06:51 PM Nope Nope Nope...My body my rules... You do know they want to include tracking chips in these injections So you're a pro choice guy... His choice doesn't end another's life. So many unexamined thoughts on the left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted August 10, 2020 at 07:11 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 07:11 PM The current approximate death rate from COVID-19 today is .0321%, the overall fatality rate for ordinary-type smallpox was about 30%! You had a 1:3 chance of dying! Big difference. The only vaccines I have have had were 50 years ago. Those were the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines and the "DPT" vaccine. I have never been diagnosed as having the flu nor have I ever felt so sick that I thought I had the flu. I have also never had a flu shot despite being a "senior" plus two other "co-morbidities" according to the corona virus "experts" (weight & HBP). H3LL, I haven't even had a wintertime cold in the last three years. Nope Nope Nope...My body my rules...Agreed. (See above response) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted August 10, 2020 at 08:35 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 08:35 PM I had to go to my C-pap Dr ( in with my lung Dr ) last week and when the nurse came in she started the normal run down about meds and such. She got to the question , " have you had your flu shot this year ?" ) and I told her no. Told her I have had 3 flu shots since I became disabled in 2005 and had gotten sick 3 times. To my surprise , she replied that she also gets sick every time she takes one but has to because of being a nurse. She stated that she certainly wouldn't take one if she wasn't required to. I am wondering if the Covid vaccine will give me the same results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted August 10, 2020 at 09:07 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 09:07 PM I'd like to get an antibody test first before I got the vaccine.If I already had Covid, why risk taking the vaccine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted August 10, 2020 at 09:31 PM Share Posted August 10, 2020 at 09:31 PM Where is the link that states the vaccine will be mandatory? Is this the same with the flu shots? Just say no? And the insertion of chips for tracking is almost the funniest thing I’ve read today! Another what if and what about thread, don’t you guys get tired of this stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cola490 Posted August 11, 2020 at 02:23 PM Share Posted August 11, 2020 at 02:23 PM What he said^^^^^^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord Posted August 12, 2020 at 03:52 PM Share Posted August 12, 2020 at 03:52 PM This vaccine will become like the flu shot, need it every year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted August 12, 2020 at 07:58 PM Share Posted August 12, 2020 at 07:58 PM This vaccine will become like the flu shot, need it every year.. BULL !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted August 12, 2020 at 08:21 PM Share Posted August 12, 2020 at 08:21 PM This vaccine will become like the flu shot, need it every year.. You mean that flu vaccine that’s only something like 40% effective?? That flu shot?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerus Posted August 13, 2020 at 04:01 PM Share Posted August 13, 2020 at 04:01 PM This vaccine will become like the flu shot, need it every year.. You mean that flu vaccine that’s only something like 40% effective?? That flu shot??Gets even worse than that. You only have about a 10% chance of getting the flu without a shot. Still a much larger chance than corona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted August 13, 2020 at 10:06 PM Share Posted August 13, 2020 at 10:06 PM In my County we have had 317 cases of Covid-19 so far with only 20 deaths. Any death is to many but this shows that there is only 0.063% death rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted August 14, 2020 at 06:54 PM Share Posted August 14, 2020 at 06:54 PM In my County we have had 317 cases of Covid-19 so far with only 20 deaths. Any death is to many but this shows that there is only 0.063% death rate. Thje numbers have been higher in St. Clair county but the "hot zone" seems to still be East St. Louis. I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted August 14, 2020 at 07:03 PM Share Posted August 14, 2020 at 07:03 PM In my County we have had 317 cases of Covid-19 so far with only 20 deaths. Any death is to many but this shows that there is only 0.063% death rate. 20 ÷ 317 = 6.3%, not 0.063% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted August 14, 2020 at 08:54 PM Share Posted August 14, 2020 at 08:54 PM In my County we have had 317 cases of Covid-19 so far with only 20 deaths. Any death is to many but this shows that there is only 0.063% death rate.20 ÷ 317 = 6.3%, not 0.063% Hummm .... Guess my calculator and my phone are both wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelpro Posted August 14, 2020 at 10:50 PM Share Posted August 14, 2020 at 10:50 PM The correct calculation is 20÷317=.063×100=6.3% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted August 15, 2020 at 02:59 PM Share Posted August 15, 2020 at 02:59 PM The state or more so, Chicago, would have a better long term outcome to come up with a plan to stop the gang bangers. They wouldn't even need a team of scientists to figure out the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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