PGrady Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:01 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:01 PM Greetings all. This is my first topic, kindly excuse my ignorance. I do not have a FOID card, but my wife does. My stepson is a county deputy and lives with us. My SIL recently finalized a divorce from her ex (not an evil guy, just a loser) whose card is revoked. She wants to move a rifle out of the house. Can my wife keep the weapon at our house without transferring ownership, or should it be surrendered to LE? If its surrendered, how complex is the process to reclaim it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagloo Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:13 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:13 PM Why don't you let the Step Son Deputy hold the rifle until things can get sorted? Once surrendered, it can be tough to reclaim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcreek Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:14 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:14 PM She can hold it but it would be good to have a signed document stating transfer ofPossession. I would avoid surrender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:14 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:14 PM Sounds confusing... who owns the rifle? You should get your FOID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:34 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:34 PM Sounds confusing... who owns the rifle? You should get your FOID. Confusing and or a little murky. Good advice about the FOID. My wife doesn't shoot (yet). But she has a FOID, just so she could legally "posess" firearms should something happen to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:37 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:37 PM Avoid surrender. Wife or son can hold onto it and I agree with others....get the FOID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGrady Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:44 PM Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 02:44 PM Sounds confusing... who owns the rifle? You should get your FOID.Ex-husband owns the rifle. I’m appealing a FOID denial (+5 mental health prohibitor, will cover this in another topic, I know there’s a lot to read yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted June 3, 2020 at 04:35 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 04:35 PM Title says registered to us but there is no registration in Illinois and you can lend weapons in Illinois without transferring ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted June 3, 2020 at 05:16 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 05:16 PM You may be putting the Step Son Deputy in a position that he may not wish to be in with firearms and Non FOID card holders.Whom ever has a valid FOID would need to keep the firearm locked and unaccessible to those without, denied, etc. Does your SIL have a FOID card? If not then after he lost his FOID card he only has a few options and they are limited by time.A legit ISP site transfer to the Step Son would be best regardless of whom may or may not want or get it back later. Remembering that he would want to take ownership of the firearm! If he lost his FOID card and surrenders the firearm it is gone, gone, gone.Make every effort to not shirt any laws and rules as anything picked up by the Leo’s will hamper your attempt to get a review of your own situation! Good Luck, Welcome to the forums. Tic Tok the clock is running....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted June 3, 2020 at 05:21 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 05:21 PM Title says registered to us but there is no registration in Illinois and you can lend weapons in Illinois without transferring ownership.So they lend it to a FOID card holder, they have an issue, blah, blah they have something come up.“Well who’s is the owner?” Well he is but he has No FOID as it was revoked! “But he lent it to me” So it’s still his? Too many variables here.Why is it we always look to skirt anything that we know about and not just follow the rules?There are no lawyers on here giving out legal answers, everyone has a way around everything.......I’m the registered owner of my firearms and my wife is the registered owner of hers, ask the ATF and look at the 4473. Not like a car title where both parties are listed as owners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted June 3, 2020 at 06:20 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 06:20 PM Greetings all. This is my first topic, kindly excuse my ignorance. I do not have a FOID card, but my wife does. My stepson is a county deputy and lives with us. My SIL recently finalized a divorce from her ex (not an evil guy, just a loser) whose card is revoked. She wants to move a rifle out of the house. Can my wife keep the weapon at our house without transferring ownership, or should it be surrendered to LE? If its surrendered, how complex is the process to reclaim it? Not at all legal advice... Reading your post again, it seems like your wife or stepson could take the gun, as both are eligible to have one.I might be concerned about you having access to it since you are currently not eligible. The SILs EX is not eligible. Does the SIL have a FOID?You can't return it to either of them if they are not eligible.She shouldn't keep it without her own FOID. If your eligible wife or stepson is holding on to it for the SIL until she is eligible, or wants it returned to her if she is eligible... it's probably (?) an OK thing for them to do. If she's just trying to keep it away from the EX because maybe he wants it back, turn it in. Explain why she's turning it in and let the EX deal with it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 3, 2020 at 07:25 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 07:25 PM Greetings all. This is my first topic, kindly excuse my ignorance. I do not have a FOID card, but my wife does. My stepson is a county deputy and lives with us. My SIL recently finalized a divorce from her ex (not an evil guy, just a loser) whose card is revoked. She wants to move a rifle out of the house. Can my wife keep the weapon at our house without transferring ownership, or should it be surrendered to LE? If its surrendered, how complex is the process to reclaim it? Ex-husband owns the rifle. I’m appealing a FOID denial (+5 mental health prohibitor, will cover this in another topic, I know there’s a lot to read yet). It's the ex-husband's choice what happens to the rifle, not the sister-in-law's. Disposing of someone's property without their permission is theft. Even if he doesn't have a FOID, it's still his property. If the ex-husband doesn't have anyone with a FOID willing to hold the rifle for him, pretty much the sister-in-law's only choice (since she doesn't want it in her house) is to turn it over to the cops. Of course, if he consents to have your family hold it for him, then he does actually have someone with a FOID willing to hold it for him. But it's his decision, not hers, to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 3, 2020 at 07:53 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 07:53 PM ISP = cops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 3, 2020 at 08:32 PM Share Posted June 3, 2020 at 08:32 PM Yes, whats your point? ... Did I imagine that I said ... If the ex-husband doesn't have anyone with a FOID willing to hold the rifle for him, pretty much the sister-in-law's only choice (since she doesn't want it in her house) is to turn it over to the cops.... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS1 Posted June 4, 2020 at 03:38 AM Share Posted June 4, 2020 at 03:38 AM Sounds confusing... who owns the rifle? You should get your FOID. Confusing and or a little murky. Good advice about the FOID. My wife doesn't shoot (yet). But she has a FOID, just so she could legally "posess" firearms should something happen to me.So you currently "posess" but don't have a FOID? My question is what kind of rifle is this? Unless it's very valuable or has significant sentimental value it's probably not with the trouble adding the complication to your already complicated situation. Sell/consign it at a local shop (if legal) or turn in to the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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