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My Hillary-voting friends are posting to Facebook like it's end times, the sky is falling, they've changed their photos to a black box, saying he's going to institute a dictatorship, it's Hitler, etc. I intensely dislike Trump. but the melodrama I'm seeing is ridiculous.

 

The host of a local radio show this morning said that today would be called Melodrama Wednesday. :D

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So many "WHAT DO I TELL MY CHILDREN?" posts.

"The measure of a person is as much about how they handle defeat as how they handle success."

 

But that's just me.

 

 

Yeah, a variation of that is top of my list. But even if one thinks Trump is a terrible person then use it as an opportunity to tell your kids sometimes bad people get ahead. Life isn't fair. You don't always get the hero you think you deserve. Whatever.

 

This notion though that Trump is this hate-filled troll is so blown out of proportion. I'm not and have never been a big Trump advocate. He can be crass and ill-tempered, but he's not going to be sending his secret police out to round up all the people of color and deport them like so many seem to think.

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So many "WHAT DO I TELL MY CHILDREN?" posts.

"The measure of a person is as much about how they handle defeat as how they handle success."

 

But that's just me.

 

 

Yeah, a variation of that is top of my list. But even if one thinks Trump is a terrible person then use it as an opportunity to tell your kids sometimes bad people get ahead. Life isn't fair. You don't always get the hero you think you deserve. Whatever.

 

This notion though that Trump is this hate-filled troll is so blown out of proportion. I'm not and have never been a big Trump advocate. He can be crass and ill-tempered, but he's not going to be sending his secret police out to round up all the people of color and deport them like so many seem to think.

 

Most of the Black and Brown folks I have spoken to don't believe he is hate filled, but they do feel he's insensitive, boorish and often juvenile. Those aren't the adjectives I would choose for my President, but I damn sure wouldn't (and didn't) choose Hillary Clinton who is a well gift-wrapped box of less liberty. They say in democracies, the people get the leaders they deserve... you gotta admit with these folks at the helm the country is in a tougher spot than when we grew up. Can we bring back a zombie version of Ronald Reagan? Please?

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The butt hurt liberals seem so unaware of how their endless tantrum demands, Commander Cram Down Obama, and a corrupt DOJ cemented support for Trump.

Who else was loud enough to push back against the lies and tactics?

 

Actions have consequences, but spoiled snowflakes with their "triggers" have yet to learn that lesson.

 

We're talking about one or more generations that cannot explain what led to the American Revolution, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, WWII, Watergate, or even the significance of Benghazi.

 

I doubt they've ever ridden in a cab with an immigrant who rants about leaving a corrupt socialist country for a better life only to see this government working against its own citizens.

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Most of the Black and Brown folks I have spoken to don't believe he is hate filled, but they do feel he's insensitive, boorish and often juvenile. Those aren't the adjectives I would choose for my President, but I damn sure wouldn't (and didn't) choose Hillary Clinton who is a well gift-wrapped box of less liberty. They say in democracies, the people get the leaders they deserve... you gotta admit with these folks at the helm the country is in a tougher spot than when we grew up. Can we bring back a zombie version of Ronald Reagan? Please?

 

Yeah, I feel about the same. Not my ideal candidate by a long stretch but still vastly superior to Clinton. I hope everyone learns from this and brings forward better candidates in future elections. Trump's election proves the people are fed up with political elitism, so both parties need to stop trying to shove the political elite down our throats.

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I've been posting with sadistic glee on various online forums about what the election of Trump really means. I'll repost it here, because I get to mercilessly mock BOTH sides of the political spectrum with the forthcoming mental agony of NEITHER of them getting what they want out of this election, with both conservatives and liberals suffering in well-deserved brain-searing cognitive dissonance.

 

Republicans who are astute enough to recognize it are extremely trepid that he will revert to his previously often-centrist and even Democratic-leaning version of himself, before he carpet bagged onto the Republicans because he realized that in their superior, self-satisfied, you're-not-good-enough-for-our-reindeer-games smugness, the Democrats would never elect him to any public office.

 

To wit, between 1989 and 2011, Trump donated $497,690 to Republican candidates and causes, and $581,350 to Democratic campaigns: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/09/ben-ferguson/donald-trumps-campaign-contributions-democrats-and/ It was only after that span that he increased his donations to Republican candidates and decreased his Democratic contributions.

 

In reality, despite what he has said to hoodwink the voters who he manipulated with Machiavellian pragmatism, he will likely be either neutral or non-interventionist on abortion, gay rights, and drug legalization (and probably pro on the last, because it makes economic sense). From this, I suspect that Red heads will be spinning with delicious cognitive dissonance.

 

He will be pro-firearm, fiscally restrictive, and punitive against the histrionic entitled hyperbole that stridently liberal factions espouse. They will be equally sucking the pain-stick from this.

 

He will freak out the Democrats with things like preventing gun control and fiscal conservatism, and freak the Republicans out with a lot of surprisingly socially inclusive policies on personal freedoms that their tiny minded, bigoted religious biases will hate. Trump is, if nothing else, inclined to not countenance the government not staying the ... out of what he wants to do, and by extension, he will consider government nannying to be ,..... and not countenance that, either.

 

Also, he is not going to be so stupid and squander his political capital and ...... the beneficial Affordable Care Act aspects without having some alternative that will sustain his "winning" status of not.... over the "little people" who were instrumental in him having the popular support that he managed to garner. To do so would be ...... witless and stupid, and despite what almost everyone believes (willfully and blindly foolishly) he's too ruthlessly clever to ...himself over when it actually counts.

 

I have thought all along that Trump was playing the long con in terms of pragmatism in order to win. Thus, I expect him to freak *everyone* out on both sides who are used to things being done according to the hyper-partisan status quo.

 

Looking back over what Trump did and supported over the previous 30-odd years prior to 2011, I don't expect that his inherent self-confident narcissism would allow him much room to change his fundamental views on things that he was actually remarkably consistent about for decades.

 

He played AAAAALLLLL the .... on both sides. He just did exactly what he needed to do to win.

 

He pretty much took advantage of the large, anti-government sentiment with how things were going with politics as usual, which Clinton was emblematic of.

 

On the downside, most political analysts predicted that Bernie Sanders would have beaten Trump.

 

Democrats' inherent smugness and progressive superiority complex thus bit them in the [gluteus maximus] twice, and hard. They .... Sanders over, and thus are now receiving a .... in return.

 

I have been talking to some of my old-school political journalist sources with deep Republican contacts, and they are saying that of the Republicans who are intelligent and insightful, they are bewaring what they wished for with having Trump elected. Some of them are terrified that he will not give a .... about their Republican status quo. And they are correct.

 

I suspect that A LOT of Republican politicians will be retiring with psychological duress issues during the next four years. The cognitive dissonance will be too much for them to bear.

 

"But-but-but, *we* elected him! He's not doing Republican stuuuuuuffffff! What is going ooonnnnnn!"

 

And, of course, the Democrats will be freaking the .... out over having certain of their sacred cows being turned into hamburger.

 

What's going to most likely happen is that thoughtful, non-histrionic-ideology-bound public servants on both sides are going to realize that this disruption of the partisan gridlock idiocy will allow them to actually work out compromises to perhaps actually get some substantially beneficial things done.

 

The remainder, both Democratic and Republican hate-and-fear-motivated political idiots will be so desperate to stem the tide of "Unholy ...skulls! What the ..... Christ is haaapeniiiiing here! Waaaaaaahhhhh!" loose-bowelled terror and outrage that many of them will resort to the "the enemy of my enemy" mindset to try to thwart him.

 

NO ONE among politicians and ideologues of BOTH parties will be happy. They will be miserable, in a ... -tinglingly Schadenfreude-rich way that I will savor like fine, bloody steak and delectable wine. In the best compromises that are the best results for the most people, NO ONE among the opposing power players will end up happy. And the people who have partisanly ... -faced their way into power and the logjam that has ensued as a result of them failing to compromise and do their ... jobs for their constituents will get the teeth-kicked, neck-punched misery they deserve.

 

Thus, what's going to happen is that the aspect of the country that actually matters, THE PEOPLE, will receive a surprising amount of benefit from this situation.

 

Vastly more than would have been gotten from Clinton or any Republican candidate other than Trump winning the election.

 

You don't have to accept what I wrote here, but that's not surprising. You'd simply be one of the people who misjudged the situation all along, and who was not astute, insightful, and observant enough to recognize Trump's brilliantly devious, ruthlessly opportunist long con game that ended up getting him *exactly* where he is now. If you didn't predict he would win for the *specific* reasons I expounded on (and not the "Trump's our guy/'Murica!" hate-minded ...wittery that most of the fooled people are guilty of), then you are operating from the position of having been unable to recognize what reality has been all along, so why would your opinion be at all valid at this point.

 

That's not a question, it's a statement; if you disagree, your opinion is wrong. Period-end-of-....line. You are rightfully discounted as having any valid thoughts on this matter.

 

Suck it up, and choke it down, and get ready for the universal pain and mental anguish in store over the next four years.

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What I take issue with is those who outright proclaim things as fact. Hillary will win in a landslide, it's already been determined. No way Trump will win, they've already decided the election. It's rigged, we never stood a chance. My personal favorite... "the fix is in."

 

I'll admit that I was one of those people. But there was a method to my madness.

 

Back in '08, I proclaimed that there was no way in heck Obama could possibly win. He was an inexperienced brain deal liberal and an empty suit. Who in their right mind would vote for this idiot. Well, he won.

 

Back in '12, I proclaimed that there was no way in heck that Obama could possibly be re-elected. Obama was destroying the country and gave us the unconstitutional Obamacare. Who would be stupid enough to vote for this idiot TWICE?!?! It just couldn't happen. Well, he won AGAIN!

 

So it seemed that no matter what I predicted, the exact opposite would happen. This election cycle I took a different approach and proclaimed that the Hag would win and there was no way in heck Trump could ever take the White House. I was banking on the fact that the opposite of whatever I said actually happened. After about a year of this and especially after watching some of Trump's worse moments, I started actually believing my own BS. That was an important step in the process to "break" the curse.

 

Well, my efforts paid off and Trump won!!

Call me superstitious, or whatever, I don't care. The fact is that my negative technique worked better than I could have expected and Trump is now going to be our president, not to mention we kept the House and Senate.

 

You can thank me now. :flowers:

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He will be pro-firearm...

Says a lot right there, and without skirting the profanity filters.

 

Why don't you rein that in a little next time.

 

 

I deliberately sanitized and self-censored the original piece by running it through a language replacement algorithm. I think the absurdly clinical alternative word choices make it pretty amusing, but don't suppress or diminish the tone I wanted to convey because they clearly while euphemistically communicating the concepts of what I originally wrote. Sometimes strong language, or the understanding of exactly what strong language is intended, is absolutely necessary to drive the point home. This was one of them.

 

And is "bull****" any different than [bovine excrement] in concept linguistically? Anyone seeing either of them is going to know exactly what's meant.

 

Aside from that, if things go the way they appear that they will, there is change coming and it's going to surprise the Héll out of just about everyone on both sides, because, quite frankly, most of the population—including the so-called experts, as we've seen by how wrong they were with this election result—is just not astute or incisive enough to predict it.

 

And I'm going to laugh my *** off at their mental anguish for the next several years at what transpires.

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He will be pro-firearm...

Says a lot right there, and without skirting the profanity filters.

 

Why don't you rein that in a little next time.

 

Exactly !!!!!!!! You may decide to run for President someday and that could come back to bite you

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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161111/e27372e828eb6ebd7e97f96620a834c3.jpg

 

 

I was quite shocked at her abandoning her people like that, but I think it was just another example of who she is.

 

I know right! What was going through her head? She had plenty of time to write it a concession speech because the race was lost hours before even Podesta came out and told everyone to go home.

 

But we shouldn't all forget how Quinn conceded. He turned into a sniveling little child as well.

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