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Telecomtodd

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  1. I had a very good meeting with Mark Shaw in Waukegan - I was impressed. I ran some scenarios by him where I see some gaping holes in the law, and the high likelihood of being sued if a trained individual goes off the reservation - among other things. He agreed that there could be issues, but there is NO CASE LAW for most CC issues in Illinois. Courts would look to other states and take their case law into consideration. Although Mark is very knowledgeable, I seemed more knowledgeable about what other states' laws call for having been a former and active CC licensee in North Carolina. One gaping hole, especially for those who have taken PPITH or are an instructor - is when to disengage. In many other states the shooting regimen is 3, 5, and 7 yards and the B27 target is actually scored to meet a minimum score. I understand this follows established FBI procedures, and many other states follow that regimen. Here in IL, we have to determine that an individual can shoot at 5, 7, and 10 yards. In North Carolina, if you end up shooting someone at 10 yards, you'll end up going to jail for at least manslaughter - because you may have had an opportunity to disengage. You can argue about it, but this is actually taught in the NC classes, and there used to be "shoot/don't shoot" videos that were produced by the NCHP for the purpose of establishing when to disengage. You probably won't find a jury to convict the shooter, but imagine the expenses and hassle. According to our lack of established laws in IL, there is no problem in shooting at 10 yards. Without stating it, we're telling students to blast away out to 30 feet, and it's OK if 30% of your rounds are stray. I'd challenge Joe Blow off the street to qualify with his 2" snubbie revolver. This issue makes me a bit nervous, and I can imagine those who can honestly call themselves firearms attorneys will be very busy once permits hit the street.
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