Just some guy Posted May 11, 2018 at 11:54 AM Share Posted May 11, 2018 at 11:54 AM We hear over and over that the US should adopt Australian type gun control to prevent mass shootings.Doesn't look like those laws work very well there. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/11/family-seven-found-dead-with-gunshot-wounds-in-australia.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted May 11, 2018 at 01:58 PM Share Posted May 11, 2018 at 01:58 PM Impossible. Australia is a GFZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted May 11, 2018 at 05:06 PM Share Posted May 11, 2018 at 05:06 PM http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-wilmette-murder-suicide-04-mar04-story.html Or how about that dumb debate that the 2nd ammendment only applies to revolutionary war era weapons? And that we'd be safer with muskets. Wilmette had a handgun ban back then, didn't stop a paroled murderer from making a handgun from a musket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangrel Posted May 11, 2018 at 05:31 PM Share Posted May 11, 2018 at 05:31 PM http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-wilmette-murder-suicide-04-mar04-story.html Or how about that dumb debate that the 2nd ammendment only applies to revolutionary war era weapons? And that we'd be safer with muskets. Wilmette had a handgun ban back then, didn't stop a paroled murderer from making a handgun from a musket.Actually, he made a musket out of a replica musket to kill his wife and stepson, then turned that musket into a pistol to take his own life. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted May 11, 2018 at 05:40 PM Share Posted May 11, 2018 at 05:40 PM Looks more like a murder/suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted May 11, 2018 at 05:44 PM Share Posted May 11, 2018 at 05:44 PM So Vegas wasn't a mass shooting, it was a murder suicide? I realize it's semantics, but Congress defined “mass killings” as “3 or more killings in a single incident” (P.L. 112-265). FWIW, which is not much coming from congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 11, 2018 at 07:09 PM Share Posted May 11, 2018 at 07:09 PM So Vegas wasn't a mass shooting, it was a murder suicide? I realize it's semantics, but Congress defined mass killings as 3 or more killings in a single incident (P.L. 112-265). FWIW, which is not much coming from congress. Although the term "mass killing" is defined in the law you cite, a definition of "mass shooting' does not follow from that. "Mass shooting" is a term defined by the person using it. So the answer to whether or not it was a mass shooting is yes, if you that's what you want to call it and no, if another description makes more sense to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim123 Posted May 11, 2018 at 07:17 PM Share Posted May 11, 2018 at 07:17 PM http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-wilmette-murder-suicide-04-mar04-story.htmlOr how about that dumb debate that the 2nd ammendment only applies to revolutionary war era weapons? And that we'd be safer with muskets. Wilmette had a handgun ban back then, didn't stop a paroled murderer from making a handgun from a musket.Actually, he made a musket out of a replica musket to kill his wife and stepson, then turned that musket into a pistol to take his own life. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Wouldn't it have been easier to just drive to Indiana and buy a handgun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Millennial Posted May 12, 2018 at 01:15 AM Share Posted May 12, 2018 at 01:15 AM http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-wilmette-murder-suicide-04-mar04-story.htmlOr how about that dumb debate that the 2nd ammendment only applies to revolutionary war era weapons? And that we'd be safer with muskets. Wilmette had a handgun ban back then, didn't stop a paroled murderer from making a handgun from a musket. Actually, he made a musket out of a replica musket to kill his wife and stepson, then turned that musket into a pistol to take his own life.Sent from my SM-G935V using TapatalkWouldn't it have been easier to just drive to Indiana and buy a handgun?Now that's funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted May 12, 2018 at 02:42 PM Share Posted May 12, 2018 at 02:42 PM The anti-gunners that think the Australia gun ban laws are the solution to violence will not be deterred in the least by this mass shooting. They will rationalize that it was just a domestic violence issue as opposed to the random killings like Newtown, Las Vegas, Parkland, etc. The underlying problem is that some people are delusional in their thinking, in effect saying that criminals are "forced" to follow the law so that if guns are outlawed there will be no guns to hurt (or help) anyone. And as to the help, they just choose to ignore the reality of the use of guns for self defense as well as the fact that a gun can provide help to a person that is physically unable to stop an attacker. So I don't expect even a single gun critic to suddenly say "if it could happen in Australia despite their draconian gun restrictions, I guess gun restrictions really don't work except to keep law abiding people disarmed and defenseless". It would be nice if they did, but they won't say anything like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted May 12, 2018 at 04:16 PM Share Posted May 12, 2018 at 04:16 PM Right They'll just say the existing law didn't go far enough towards removing all of the guns from everyone and ensuring that no one procured any firearms. This incident will be the basis for increasing the power of the Australian government and reducing the freedoms and liberties of Australians even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted May 12, 2018 at 11:21 PM Share Posted May 12, 2018 at 11:21 PM Impossible. Australia is a GFZ. But - - but - - but?? How could this happen there?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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