BobPistol Posted June 13, 2018 at 07:14 PM Share Posted June 13, 2018 at 07:14 PM https://www.yahoo.com/gma/proposal-split-california-three-states-makes-november-ballot-085603479--abc-news-topstories.html This is pretty much dead in the water. Those who would have voted for this had already moved to another state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted June 13, 2018 at 07:57 PM Share Posted June 13, 2018 at 07:57 PM As if having Feinstein and Harris in the US Senate wasn't bad enough- they would have 4 counterparts. No thanks. But it wouldn't happen anyway. Congress would never approve, which would be necessary for it to happen. If I'm correct, the only time an established STATE split up was Virginia/West Virginia, during the Civil War. But that was under very different circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted June 13, 2018 at 08:41 PM Share Posted June 13, 2018 at 08:41 PM F 3 Californias. SUCESSION, that's the ticket for Cali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted June 13, 2018 at 08:46 PM Share Posted June 13, 2018 at 08:46 PM Give California to North Korea as a peace gift for de-nuking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted June 13, 2018 at 08:48 PM Share Posted June 13, 2018 at 08:48 PM I think the hope is that by splitting off the most populous liberal portion you would have 1 liberal state and 2 Conservative leaning states. If that were to happen (I have a better chance of winning the lotto) instead of 2 flaming liberal senators you would have 2 flaming liberals and 4 conservatives ones. My $00,02 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted June 13, 2018 at 08:53 PM Share Posted June 13, 2018 at 08:53 PM I remember seeing a map of how they were going to split it. They were doing it chicago style so they would get 3 liberal states out of the 1. Gerrymandering the lines. ETA:Under the proposal, each state would have about 12.3 million to 13.9 million people. California- This would include six counties: Los Angeles, Ventura, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Monterey and San Benito counties. Southern California- This would include 12 counties: San Diego, San Bernardino, Orange, Riverside, Mono, Madera, Inyo, Tulare, Fresno, Kings, Kern and Imperial counties. Northern California- This would include 40 counties including the San Francisco Bay Area and the remaining counties north of Sacramento. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted June 13, 2018 at 09:02 PM Share Posted June 13, 2018 at 09:02 PM Looking at the map I suspect that's three democrat states, they just want 4 more democrat senators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted June 14, 2018 at 12:15 AM Share Posted June 14, 2018 at 12:15 AM As if having Feinstein and Harris in the US Senate wasn't bad enough- they would have 4 counterparts. No thanks. But it wouldn't happen anyway. Congress would never approve, which would be necessary for it to happen. If I'm correct, the only time an established STATE split up was Virginia/West Virginia, during the Civil War. But that was under very different circumstances.Your assuming California is all Dem's. Have you ever met a California Republican? They are as fringe as the left. For example Patrick LittleYes, that's an Isreali flag... It's just like in Illinois, you get outside of the major cities and everyone's hardcore Republican. But since the left is extreme in Cali their right ranges from anti government militia types to neonazi types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangrel Posted June 14, 2018 at 12:21 AM Share Posted June 14, 2018 at 12:21 AM As if having Feinstein and Harris in the US Senate wasn't bad enough- they would have 4 counterparts. No thanks. But it wouldn't happen anyway. Congress would never approve, which would be necessary for it to happen. If I'm correct, the only time an established STATE split up was Virginia/West Virginia, during the Civil War. But that was under very different circumstances.Your assuming California is all Dem's. Have you ever met a California Republican? They are as fringe as the left. For example Patrick Little Yes, that's an Isreali flag... It's just like in Illinois, you get outside of the major cities and everyone's hardcore Republican. But since the left is extreme in Cali their right ranges from anti government militia types to neonazi types.Arnie and Ronald Reagan were/are Cali Republicans. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quackersmacker Posted June 14, 2018 at 12:26 AM Share Posted June 14, 2018 at 12:26 AM All of the areas would have to approve this. The liberals are not going to give the conservatives any chance at having any power when they can dominate them statewide across the board. You can fugggedddddabbbouddddit with this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teufel Hunden Posted June 14, 2018 at 01:57 AM Share Posted June 14, 2018 at 01:57 AM Can the rest of us vote California it off the Union, Survivor style? While we're at it, we could include Cook County... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted June 14, 2018 at 02:25 AM Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 at 02:25 AM We all know how Chicago dominates IL politics. This will create 3 LWW states. North California will be dominated by the LWW's in San Francisco. This will be at best light blue state, but will likely be solid blue.South California will be dominated by the LWW's in San Diego. This will be at best light blue state, but will likely be solid blue.The remainder of California will go from LWW to "whoa, drop that crack pipe down" LWW. Blue turning into dark blue to pretty much black. No light here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted June 14, 2018 at 06:29 AM Share Posted June 14, 2018 at 06:29 AM I think the hope is that by splitting off the most populous liberal portion you would have 1 liberal state and 2 Conservative leaning states. If that were to happen (I have a better chance of winning the lotto) instead of 2 flaming liberal senators you would have 2 flaming liberals and 4 conservatives ones. My $00,02 anyway.Not a chance. There'd be two guaranteed democrat states from that plan, and the third certainly leaning democrat. That's almost a dream gerrymander. No democrat in authority will ever let a state like California or Illinois just split, with the result being a new republican state. The reason for this proposed 3-way split is to add another democrat state, to try to gerrymander the senate and the electoral college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted June 14, 2018 at 01:22 PM Share Posted June 14, 2018 at 01:22 PM Just gives "California" four more senators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanook Posted June 14, 2018 at 02:00 PM Share Posted June 14, 2018 at 02:00 PM Give California to North Korea as a peace gift for de-nuking. Moonbeam Brown is more of a communist than anybody in North Korea. Kim Jung Un would decline to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted June 15, 2018 at 03:59 AM Share Posted June 15, 2018 at 03:59 AM · Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:34 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:34 PM - No reason given Leave it alone. It’s a scam to make the conservatives there think they can win. That whole state is F’ed. Don’t need three of them Link to comment
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