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#1 foxriver6

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 11:52 AM

Friend and fellow instructor called to ask if I knew my instructor creds had been revoked? Did not know that! Called ISP and it was because the NRA credentials I sent them with application have an expiration date and I renewed before they expired but did not up date with ISP. Never occurred to me that they would just revoke without checking. My bad!

 

 

 

Edited to add:  To update your instructor credentials with the ISP, email a scan of your new credentials to:  Instructor_Docs@isp.state.il.us.

Be sure to ask for verification of receipt.

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Edited by Molly B., 20 August 2014 - 09:22 PM.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:23 PM

Good to know.  Thanks for the warning.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:26 PM

Anyone recall seeing this requirement. If I missed it...then my bad! However I never recall seeing anything tell me that I had to update ISP when I renewed my NRA credentials!


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:26 PM

how did you update your creds?

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:31 PM

With ISP? Just faxed them a copy! Hopefully they fix it quickly, because I have a class on Sunday. If there is no know mechanism in place for updating them then that tells me they didn't let anyone know they had to do this!!!


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:35 PM

ISP = Ignorant State Police Revoking instructors over a made up "issue" that could have been resolved with a telephone call or email. Anyone else still believe the ISP is your friend?
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:59 PM

Looks like they got my training partner as well. I'm not on the list but I'm sure to follow as we took Instructor training at the same time. What a crock.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:59 PM

Thank you for the heads up. I just called and was told their copy showed me expired and that I would be revoked. I was given an email address and emailed a copy of new credentials. Hope they don't screw it up!



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:02 PM

Might shoot a note to my state Rep I'm ok but he gets a kick out of rattling the ISP cage once in a while

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:01 PM

I just renewed my NRA Creds in June...

 

On hold with ISP right now to get this resolved before it becomes an issue.

I am not currently revoked.



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:04 PM

WTR that's a good idea! have already made Todd aware!


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:07 PM

bobapunk, hope you get it straightened out. Only consolation is it appears instructors I respect did not know about this either! Just don't get why they want to screw with the "good guys", seams they should be busy enough with real problems!


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:08 PM

"seems"


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:14 PM

Email question to ISP:

"I recently renewed my NRA instructor certifications.   Do I need to send
you a copy"

 

Answer:

"Yes we will need a copy of that. You can scan and submit or fax to"

217-782-9139.
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Edited by NRApistol, 11 August 2014 - 01:18 PM.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:18 PM

Any one answer my question as to whether they were aware of this requirement prior to today?


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:29 PM

Any one answer my question as to whether they were aware of this requirement prior to today?


I was not.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:32 PM

Any one answer my question as to whether they were aware of this requirement prior to today?


nope

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:38 PM

Ummmm no.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:42 PM

You should have known - we're all on double secret probation!


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:47 PM

You should have known - we're all on double secret probation!

What do you mean....ISP is always fair, timely and completely reasonable in everything they do...



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:48 PM

You should have known - we're all on double secret probation!

What do you mean....ISP is always fair, timely and completely reasonable in everything they do...


pssst buddy - I got this bridge ...

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:09 PM

wtr....I couldn't resist the proper reply to that...

 

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:17 PM

UN-revoked! Instructors take note, keep ISP informed of NRA Credential renewals! Also, if you have friends that are instructors and don't check out IL Carry, call them and let them know whats going on! Thats how I found out, friend let me know! Talked to Molly B and Todd V and they are on it!


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:44 PM

Thank you for this thread. My wifes credentials were renewed earlier this month and I never even thought to update with ISP



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:49 PM

Which email address can you scan and email them to?
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:53 PM

Not sure there is an email, I faxed it!


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 08:08 PM

Mine were good through Dec. 31, 2014, but I have already renewed so I may as well fax them the new creds.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 09:16 PM

Thanks for this info!  Fax sent.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 09:58 PM

ISP = Ignorant State Police

Revoking instructors over a made up "issue" that could have been resolved with a telephone call or email.

Anyone else still believe the ISP is your friend?


bobapunk, hope you get it straightened out. Only consolation is it appears instructors I respect did not know about this either! Just don't get why they want to screw with the "good guys", seams they should be busy enough with real problems!


Simple answer, be it State or local Code compliance types. Us law abiding types are easy to find and easy to threaten encourage compliance with. Finding the real criminals breaking the law (as opposed to an arcane Administrative Code) and hurting people (not just the feelings of some {D}imwits who hate guns) is harder.
You will not 'rise to the occasion', you will default to your level of training - plan accordingly.

Despite their rallying around us at election time, honoring only 8 hours of Illinois' 40+ hour law enforcement class towards a 16 hour requirement shows the contempt that our elected officials hold us in.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:37 PM

Email question to ISP:

"I recently renewed my NRA instructor certifications.   Do I need to send
you a copy"

 

Answer:

"Yes we will need a copy of that. You can scan and submit or fax to"

217-782-9139.
Respectfully,
Illinois State Police
Firearms Services Bureau
Concealed Carry Unit
 

What email address did you use for your inquiry?  It seems there response was you can scan and submit, so I would think you can use the same email address.

Was it the one they use to communicate with us? The CCW_Illinois@isp.state.il.us email address?


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