seansco Posted July 17, 2018 at 08:33 PM Share Posted July 17, 2018 at 08:33 PM How do I go about converting my Illinois CCW to a non-resident Illinois CCW? Is it even possible? Anyone have any first hand experience with this?I just recently moved to Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted July 17, 2018 at 08:38 PM Share Posted July 17, 2018 at 08:38 PM Yes. Turn in your Illinois resident CCL. Make sure your state is on the list of acceptable states. Pay your $300 and wait for your license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted July 17, 2018 at 08:38 PM Share Posted July 17, 2018 at 08:38 PM How do I go about converting my Illinois CCW to a non-resident Illinois CCW? Is it even possible? Anyone have any first hand experience with this?I just recently moved to Iowa.My guess is that as soon as you get an Iowa DL, your FÇCL will be revoked. Subsequently you will have to reapply and pay the $300 fee to exercise a good given right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted July 17, 2018 at 08:42 PM Share Posted July 17, 2018 at 08:42 PM Except that IA is not one the "approved" states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted July 17, 2018 at 08:43 PM Share Posted July 17, 2018 at 08:43 PM Except that IA is not one the "approved" states.Good catch, I didn't even think about that. DUH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted July 17, 2018 at 09:29 PM Share Posted July 17, 2018 at 09:29 PM @seansco you’ll have to file a lawsuit against th state, or wait for th current non resident lawsuits to run their course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcreek Posted July 17, 2018 at 09:42 PM Share Posted July 17, 2018 at 09:42 PM That's too funny! Illinois so thoroughly F'd up their chance at a decent CCL. You can get an Iowa resident CCL and carry while in your vehicle in Illinois but that's the best you can hope for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teufel Hunden Posted July 17, 2018 at 09:51 PM Share Posted July 17, 2018 at 09:51 PM How do I go about converting my Illinois CCW to a non-resident Illinois CCW? Is it even possible? Anyone have any first hand experience with this?I just recently moved to Iowa.My guess is that as soon as you get an Iowa DL, your FÇCL will be revoked. Subsequently you will have to reapply and pay the $300 fee to exercise a good given right.I received my Iowa Driver's License 13 months ago and have not received a revocation yet. I plan to voluntarily surrender FCCL and FOID next time I'm back in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted July 17, 2018 at 11:30 PM Share Posted July 17, 2018 at 11:30 PM Playing devil's advocate here. It would be illegal, but what IF someone moved out of state and kept their IL CCL and showed that to police if ever asked? Unless they did something wrong, are the police going to check if it's valid (unless, of course it is expired). And if you get into a defensive shooting, if it was a good shooting, will they be prosecuted? Even Chicago didn't prosecute good shoots during the handgun ban years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teufel Hunden Posted July 18, 2018 at 12:30 AM Share Posted July 18, 2018 at 12:30 AM If you move out of the state, why would you ever come back?Just to visit friends and family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teufel Hunden Posted July 18, 2018 at 12:32 AM Share Posted July 18, 2018 at 12:32 AM Playing devil's advocate here. It would be illegal, but what IF someone moved out of state and kept their IL CCL and showed that to police if ever asked? Unless they did something wrong, are the police going to check if it's valid (unless, of course it is expired). And if you get into a defensive shooting, if it was a good shooting, will they be prosecuted? Even Chicago didn't prosecute good shoots during the handgun ban years.They are going to likely want your Illinois Driver's License also. When you produce an out of state license, you are likely going to jail and they will let the courts sort it out later. I'm currently in that situation and would never take the chance. It simply isn't worth it to me, I have too much else to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted July 18, 2018 at 12:57 AM Share Posted July 18, 2018 at 12:57 AM Playing devil's advocate here. It would be illegal, but what IF someone moved out of state and kept their IL CCL and showed that to police if ever asked? Unless they did something wrong, are the police going to check if it's valid (unless, of course it is expired). And if you get into a defensive shooting, if it was a good shooting, will they be prosecuted? Even Chicago didn't prosecute good shoots during the handgun ban years. They are going to likely want your Illinois Driver's License also. When you produce an out of state license, you are likely going to jail and they will let the courts sort it out later. I'm currently in that situation and would never take the chance. It simply isn't worth it to me, I have too much else to lose.Why would you go to jail simply by having an out of state CCL? If you did something wrong, I'd expect that to be true, but in state or out of state license wouldn't change anything. If you're driving, I would expect them to ask for a DL. But if you're not driving, why would they ask for a DL? And by law, (except if you have a CCL) you don't have to provide any ID, but you do need to identify yourself. My CCL is me, no lie there. I may be wrong, but I got my CCL the first week they were out. In 4 1/2 years of carrying, I've been asked by the police to show my CCL exactly 0 times. So I really don't know how closely the police scrutinize it. But that also leads to another topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DomG Posted July 18, 2018 at 01:08 AM Share Posted July 18, 2018 at 01:08 AM I plan to voluntarily surrender FCCL and FOID next time I'm back in Illinois.Don't give them shite. If you want to follow the laws and no longer use them, that is one thing. But why bow down to a corrupt state and their unconstitutional laws? Do you REALLY think they'll have a warrant out for your arrest because you didn't turn in your government issued civil rights permission slips? These idiots in IL can't issue or renew licenses properly. They have no clue that you still have yours. I can't wait to move from IL and shake my willy at the ISP as I cross the border to freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seansco Posted July 18, 2018 at 03:32 PM Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 at 03:32 PM If you move out of the state, why would you ever come back?Still work in Illinois. My company is moving their headquarters to Iowa too but not till next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted July 18, 2018 at 03:53 PM Share Posted July 18, 2018 at 03:53 PM How do I go about converting my Illinois CCW to a non-resident Illinois CCW? Is it even possible? Anyone have any first hand experience with this?I just recently moved to Iowa. You are out of luck. It cannot be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm Posted July 18, 2018 at 05:52 PM Share Posted July 18, 2018 at 05:52 PM According to the FCCA, you are required to notify ISP within 30 of a change of address (or name change) . If you fail to notify them within 30 days, they can fine you $150, which is to be deposited into the Mental Health Reporting Fund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted July 18, 2018 at 08:25 PM Share Posted July 18, 2018 at 08:25 PM According to the FCCA, you are required to notify ISP within 30 of a change of address (or name change) . If you fail to notify them within 30 days, they can fine you $150, which is to be deposited into the Mental Health Reporting Fund. Will the web site even allow a change of address to a location outside of Illinois? We know the license would be canceled, regardless, but I donât know if the address fields are locked down to prohibit entry of another state when filing a change of address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted July 19, 2018 at 12:05 AM Share Posted July 19, 2018 at 12:05 AM If I remember correctly, in Meyers v. Schmitz, the state finally admitted that the only reason they could "cancel" (revoke) his CCL because he was no longer eligible for a FOID as a non-resident. I have been working armed security for many years. I live and work very, very close to the Iowa border. If I do eventually move back to the Hawkeye State, I wonder how they will treat my CCL status. As an armed security officer licensed in Illinois, I am required to have a FOID even as a non-resident. If I move to a bordering state, I will still remain eligible for a FOID due to my employment. What grounds would they have to revoke my IL CCL? -- Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted July 19, 2018 at 12:05 AM Share Posted July 19, 2018 at 12:05 AM According to the FCCA, you are required to notify ISP within 30 of a change of address (or name change) . If you fail to notify them within 30 days, they can fine you $150, which is to be deposited into the Mental Health Reporting Fund.Will the web site even allow a change of address to a location outside of Illinois? We know the license would be canceled, regardless, but I donât know if the address fields are locked down to prohibit entry of another state when filing a change of address. I think I remember reading that someone tried to change their address to another state, and it wouldn't let them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted July 19, 2018 at 07:00 AM Share Posted July 19, 2018 at 07:00 AM If I remember correctly, in Meyers v. Schmitz, the state finally admitted that the only reason they could "cancel" (revoke) his CCL because he was no longer eligible for a FOID as a non-resident. I have been working armed security for many years. I live and work very, very close to the Iowa border. If I do eventually move back to the Hawkeye State, I wonder how they will treat my CCL status. As an armed security officer licensed in Illinois, I am required to have a FOID even as a non-resident. If I move to a bordering state, I will still remain eligible for a FOID due to my employment. What grounds would they have to revoke my IL CCL? -- FrankYou'd be an interesting follow on case depending on how the other non-resident licensing cases end up being decided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted July 19, 2018 at 12:00 PM Share Posted July 19, 2018 at 12:00 PM Greetings! First off, yes I am the plaintiff in Meyers vs Schmitz and would welcome talking to you, send me a message and I can get you some contact info. @Teufel Hunden - So I would be curious since you have turned in your IL license and got a IA license, if you login to ispfsb.com what your CCL shows. It should show Cancelled or Revoked. If it doesnt I would be surprised. @kwc - The address fields are indeed locked down and cannot be changed. @Frank - They used the FOID excuse but have moved past that and on to the whole mental health reporting (basically hiding behind FOID requirements when the CCL statute does say something entirely different). And if your scenario of moving out of state but work in IL and require FOID ever becomes, that would be a fun addition to the state challenge I have going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teufel Hunden Posted July 19, 2018 at 01:36 PM Share Posted July 19, 2018 at 01:36 PM Greetings! @Teufel Hunden - So I would be curious since you have turned in your IL license and got a IA license, if you login to ispfsb.com what your CCL shows. It should show Cancelled or Revoked. If it doesnt I would be surprised. Checked my FOID # through the ISP tool within the last month or so and it came back valid. I never reestablished an account through the ispfsb.com portal after they changed the security protocol. I can't check directly on FCCL status without updating my account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted July 19, 2018 at 04:10 PM Share Posted July 19, 2018 at 04:10 PM Will the web site even allow a change of address to a location outside of Illinois? It would make sense if it did. That way the state would get your license fee and be able to pocket it while not granting you a license. Easy money for a money hungry state! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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