bjm Posted December 19, 2018 at 02:51 AM Share Posted December 19, 2018 at 02:51 AM This doesn't read good to me. But does anyone have any insight to whats going on in 2019? HB 04855 / Munoz, A / Wheeler, B / "Makes more individuals ineligible to hold a FOID card by expanding the definition of "patient" and makes other changes to the FOID Card Act" / Public Safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod Posted December 19, 2018 at 02:57 AM Share Posted December 19, 2018 at 02:57 AM I don't know about this, it wasn't on my renewal application that I just filled out today. But I will say that if I was the issuing person, and saw the picture I sent, I'd have second thoughts. Is there something about FOID and driver's license photos that just go bad ? I hardly recognize myself in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted December 19, 2018 at 03:58 AM Share Posted December 19, 2018 at 03:58 AM It passed and is effective January 1, 2019. House Floor Amendment No. 2Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Reinserts the provisions of the introduced bill with changes. Defines "patient" for purposes of the Act as a person who is admitted as an inpatient or resident of a public or private mental health facility for mental health treatment under the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code as an informal admission, a voluntary admission, a minor admission, an emergency admission, or an involuntary admission, unless the treatment was solely for an alcohol abuse disorder; or a person who voluntarily or involuntarily receives mental health treatment as an out-patient or is otherwise provided services by a public or private mental health facility, and who poses a clear and present danger to himself, herself, or to others (in the introduced bill, as a person who: is admitted as an in-patient or resident of a public or private mental health facility for mental health treatment under the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code as an informal admission, a voluntary admission, a minor admission, an emergency admission, or an involuntary admission; or is otherwise provided mental health treatment as an in-patient or resident by a public or private mental health facility, unless the treatment was solely for an alcohol abuse disorder and no other secondary substance abuse disorder or mental illness; or a person who voluntarily or involuntarily receives mental health treatment as an out-patient or is otherwise provided services by a public or private mental health facility, and who poses a clear and present danger to himself, herself, or to others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted December 19, 2018 at 12:03 PM Share Posted December 19, 2018 at 12:03 PM The bill allows temporary suspension of a FOID card under circumstances that previously required revocation, and brings the definition of inpatient treatment into conformance with the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code. We were neutral on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyP Posted December 19, 2018 at 12:06 PM Share Posted December 19, 2018 at 12:06 PM It would be tough politically as a legislator to take a stand against preventing folks with a mental illness from obtaining firearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted December 19, 2018 at 05:49 PM Share Posted December 19, 2018 at 05:49 PM It would be tough politically as a legislator to take a stand against preventing folks with a mental illness from obtaining firearms. The term "Mental Illiness" is defined as a belief system of anyone who disagrees with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdf4 Posted December 19, 2018 at 06:34 PM Share Posted December 19, 2018 at 06:34 PM So what does it mean for someone who goes to seek theapy or who takes anti depressants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseeker Posted December 19, 2018 at 11:39 PM Share Posted December 19, 2018 at 11:39 PM The bill allows temporary suspension of a FOID card under circumstances that previously required revocation, and brings the definition of inpatient treatment into conformance with the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code. We were neutral on it.Thank you for clarifying Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderhead Posted December 19, 2018 at 11:47 PM Share Posted December 19, 2018 at 11:47 PM So what does it mean for someone who goes to seek theapy or who takes anti depressants?Oh, don't worry. People who fall in that category are next on the list. It's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle50cal Posted December 20, 2018 at 12:29 AM Share Posted December 20, 2018 at 12:29 AM I have to see a shrink because I have a chronic sleep disorder caused by overseas service which instantly puts me close to or in the PTSD category. Does this mean I should stop all contact with health providers to keep my rights? I really don't think I understand the wording or what the intent is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted December 20, 2018 at 12:43 AM Share Posted December 20, 2018 at 12:43 AM So what does it mean for someone who goes to seek theapy or who takes anti depressants?Nothing, as long as you're not also a clear and present danger to yourself or others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted December 20, 2018 at 01:11 AM Share Posted December 20, 2018 at 01:11 AM I forgot the mention earlier that the bill also specifies a person's FOID card will remain active while ISP processes a renewal if it was applied for before renewal, and gives ISP 60 days for processing (unless the applicant becomes disqualified for a FOID card). So what does it mean for someone who goes to seek theapy or who takes anti depressants?Nothing, as long as you're not also a clear and present danger to yourself or others. That's pretty much the intent.The part about mental health primarily redefines "patient". Existing law reads:"Patient" means:a person who voluntarily receives mental health treatment as anin-patient or resident of any public or private mentalhealth facility, unless the treatment was solely for analcohol abuse disorder and no other secondary substanceabuse disorder or mental illness; or This will be changed to:"Patient" means:(1) a person who is admitted as an inpatient orresident of a public or private mental health facility formental health treatment under Chapter III of the MentalHealth and Developmental Disabilities Code as an informaladmission, a voluntary admission, a minor admission, anemergency admission, or an involuntary admission,unless the treatment was solely for analcohol abuse disorderThere's also a bit of language addressing involuntary admissions as they relate to a clear and present danger.The types of admissions referred to in the new language can be found here, beginning with Article III of Chapter III. In a sense, this does broaden the definition to a degree but that's offset by the ability to suspend, rather than revoke, a person's FOID card for a temporary disqualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted December 20, 2018 at 06:42 PM Share Posted December 20, 2018 at 06:42 PM Does nothing to curtail gang violence...which is where 99% of the shootings in Illinois are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted December 23, 2018 at 12:18 PM Share Posted December 23, 2018 at 12:18 PM · Hidden by mauserme, December 23, 2018 at 12:22 PM - No reason given Hidden by mauserme, December 23, 2018 at 12:22 PM - No reason given Nibble nibble around the edges. Eventually it will be all gone. Link to comment
SmithWesson Posted January 7, 2019 at 10:25 PM Share Posted January 7, 2019 at 10:25 PM Does nothing to curtail gang violence...which is where 99% of the shootings in Illinois are.^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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