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#1 SycamoreRuger

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 07:40 AM

I contacted this guy here in DeKalb County about a Cerakote job on my P365 and he said he was swamped because he was getting ready to move to Michigan due to the new FFL law. I may have contacted our local newspaper about the situation.

"It's hard to be a small business owner in Illinois," Haas said. "You start thinking about what's going to happen and how fragile everything is that you're building on and how it can be taken away or leveled all at one time at no fault of your own."

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 07:46 AM

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 08:00 AM

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 11:14 PM

Yep. That's more evidence to support what I wrote here.


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Posted 09 June 2019 - 10:28 AM

Yep. I’m friends with the owner. Great guy sad to see him leave but it’s best for him and his family. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

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Posted 09 June 2019 - 11:46 PM

Do you need an FFL to do Cerakoting?



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Posted 10 June 2019 - 05:21 AM

Do you need an FFL to do Cerakoting?

 

FFL is not required to Cerakote patio furniture...


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Posted 10 June 2019 - 12:01 PM

Do you need an FFL to do Cerakoting?

assuming he is just cya with foids and transfers and handling and stupid Illinois laws


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 07:30 AM

Do you need an FFL to do Cerakoting?


If your going to send and receive firearms then yes.
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Posted 27 June 2019 - 11:43 PM

I have wondered about how the state would handle gunsmithing only. You still need an FFL 01, but would not be engaged in the business of selling or transferring firearms, therefore not subject to the Illinois gun dealer non sense. That is if I remember the wording of the gun dealer licensing act correctly. Good luck trying to convince the state that you have an FFL 01, but don’t sell firearms. And yes you need an FFL 01 to cerakote firearms for other people as it is considered gunsmithing. Heck the ATF tried to classify painting firearms as manufacturing a while back if I remember correctly. Then tried to reclassify almost all typical gunsmithing operations as manufacturing also. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Posted 27 June 2019 - 11:48 PM

Interestingly gunsmithing record keeping falls into a weird space. If you return the gun quickly enough (can’t remember the timeframe) you don’t even have to log it in. And you can return it to someone other than the owner. At least as of a few years ago. But if you consign a gun, it is no longer yours and you have to fill out a 4473 and follow local laws (wait times) to retrieve it. Was a real hassle when an Indiana resident decided he wanted his handgun back from consignment. Had to transfer it to an Indiana FFL to transfer it back to him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Posted 28 June 2019 - 03:15 PM

I have wondered about how the state would handle gunsmithing only.
You still need an FFL 01, but would not be engaged in the business of selling or transferring firearms, therefore not subject to the Illinois gun dealer non sense.
That is if I remember the wording of the gun dealer licensing act correctly.

Good luck trying to convince the state that you have an FFL 01, but don’t sell firearms.

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Just picked my gun from my gunsmith about 10 days ago after having Apex triggers put in. He currently does transfers but said that he is giving it up to avoid the Illinois BS. Still needs to be an FFL as a gunsmith, but he will not be subject to the harassment.
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Posted 28 June 2019 - 09:18 PM


Just picked my gun from my gunsmith about 10 days ago after having Apex triggers put in. He currently does transfers but said that he is giving it up to avoid the Illinois BS. Still needs to be an FFL as a gunsmith, but he will not be subject to the harassment.


I hope that is the case.
But it might take some good explaining to convince the state of this.


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