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#1 Tjan

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Posted 06 June 2019 - 01:10 PM

I have an Illinois CC permit which expired a month ago. I had submitted my application 90 days prior to the permit expiring, and the status still shows it being under review. I understand that I can still carry but have been told that local law enforcement does not have access to the State Police database which shows that I submitted my renewal. If I'm pulled over I can be arrested, and while I ultimately won't be charged I'll lose my FOID as soon as my arrest hits the computers and it'll take a while to go through the process of getting it back. Am I understanding this correctly, or is it ok to keep carrying? I'd carry documentation of my renewal application being submitted. As of now I'm pkaying it safe and am not carrying.



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Posted 06 June 2019 - 01:37 PM

Your CCL is still active. We've had multiple posts where people wrote they were able to see their card as active via an ISP lookup which I believe was through LEADS.

BTW, who is telling you local LE can not see current card status?

Edited by InterestedBystander, 06 June 2019 - 01:41 PM.

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Posted 06 June 2019 - 01:38 PM

Not carrying doesn't sound like a safe option.

 

There are a few threads on this already.  Majority is still carrying on an expired license with a copy of the renewal at its side.  IANAL and all that but IMO if you were not prohibited at the time of expiry, you still aren't during the renewal.  Obviously that would hinge on whether you've been arrested during that time.


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Posted 06 June 2019 - 02:02 PM

I have an Illinois CC permit which expired a month ago. I had submitted my application 90 days prior to the permit expiring, and the status still shows it being under review. I understand that I can still carry but have been told that local law enforcement does not have access to the State Police database which shows that I submitted my renewal. If I'm pulled over I can be arrested, and while I ultimately won't be charged I'll lose my FOID as soon as my arrest hits the computers and it'll take a while to go through the process of getting it back. Am I understanding this correctly, or is it ok to keep carrying? I'd carry documentation of my renewal application being submitted. As of now I'm pkaying it safe and am not carrying.

 

Where did you hear that your local LE agency does not have access to the ISP database?  If you have a computer in whatever remote part of the state that you may live in, it is very likely that they have one also.  You can always call the department to find out if they have access.  



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Posted 06 June 2019 - 02:08 PM

Shame there are people who would or do tell others this stuff.
Sorry you had to possibly stress over carrying.

Deep breaths and carry on!

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Posted 06 June 2019 - 02:34 PM

What is the dirty shame is the state continues to violate the law by taking longer than allowed to process these with no negative consequences.



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Posted 06 June 2019 - 04:09 PM

Your CCL is still active. We've had multiple posts where people wrote they were able to see their card as active via an ISP lookup which I believe was through LEADS.

BTW, who is telling you local LE can not see current card stat

 

Shame there are people who would or do tell others this stuff.
Sorry you had to possibly stress over carrying.

Deep breaths and carry on!

Welcome to the forums.

No stress, just trying to figure out what I can do. :)

 

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Posted 06 June 2019 - 04:27 PM

Your CCL is still active. We've had multiple posts where people wrote they were able to see their card as active via an ISP lookup which I believe was through LEADS.BTW, who is telling you local LE can not see current card stat
 

Shame there are people who would or do tell others this stuff.
Sorry you had to possibly stress over carrying.
Deep breaths and carry on!
Welcome to the forums.

No stress, just trying to figure out what I can do. :)
 
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I suppose maybe...if they did not have access to LEADS but I thought everyone LE had that in the state. Sounds like bad info to me.

Read this:
http://illinoiscarry...35#entry1201479

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Posted 06 June 2019 - 05:05 PM

My instructor for my renewal class spouted the very same “don’t carry” warning... Read the law directly to her... Was spouting the theory that out of state permit holders are prohibited as well (yes, the whole in/out of vehicle factor was discussed) That being said, the same agency was spouting off against concealed carry overall when I sought training documents from them for my FL card... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Posted 06 June 2019 - 05:29 PM

Wait
Im he ISRA stated this?

Hey MollyB hear this?

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Posted 07 June 2019 - 05:49 AM

Thanks for the responses. I checked this morning and the status changed to active, so it's on it's way.



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Posted 07 June 2019 - 07:19 AM

What is the dirty shame is the state continues to violate the law by taking longer than allowed to process these with no negative consequences.b

My old card expiration was 3/10 and I applied for renewal 2/21 and the new card went active 5/29 expires 5/29/2014 I benefited by the states failure to quickly renew my LTC.

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Posted 07 June 2019 - 09:38 AM

What is the dirty shame is the state continues to violate the law by taking longer than allowed to process these with no negative consequences.b

My old card expiration was 3/10 and I applied for renewal 2/21 and the new card went active 5/29 expires 5/29/2014 I benefited by the states failure to quickly renew my LTC.
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Check your dates
If you already expire 2014 with the new card you have missed the renewal date already!
I'd send it back and ask for a NEW Card this time, not a duplicate from the first application.........

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Posted 07 June 2019 - 10:02 AM

 

 

What is the dirty shame is the state continues to violate the law by taking longer than allowed to process these with no negative consequences.b

My old card expiration was 3/10 and I applied for renewal 2/21 and the new card went active 5/29 expires 5/29/2014 I benefited by the states failure to quickly renew my LTC.
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Check your dates
If you already expire 2014 with the new card you have missed the renewal date already!
I'd send it back and ask for a NEW Card this time, not a duplicate from the first application.........

 

Maybe it was a typographical error, and should be 5/29/2024 ?



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Posted 10 June 2019 - 12:53 AM

My instructor for my renewal class spouted the very same “don’t carry” warning... Read the law directly to her... Was spouting the theory that out of state permit holders are prohibited as well (yes, the whole in/out of vehicle factor was discussed) That being said, the same agency was spouting off against concealed carry overall when I sought training documents from them for my FL card... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 05:37 AM

The license came yesterday, so I’m good. It’s a shame the state creates these situations.

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 09:48 AM

My CCL went active 6/7 and arrived in the mail Tuesday, 6/11. I submitted my renewal on 2/26, so about 102 days elapsed.

 

The statute clearly states that your CCL expiration is extended once your application is accepted. Whether that applies to reciprocity is unclear, but it would constitute an active defense. Utah only asks upon renewal, and Florida doesn't care one way or the other.






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