tommoskos Posted January 16, 2019 at 05:08 PM Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 05:08 PM Just curious, why is Illinois the only state that requires a FOID?What is the purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted January 16, 2019 at 05:11 PM Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 05:11 PM It was passed in 1968 (or thereabouts) as a means of creating a universal background check for all firearm purchases (or as close to one as they could get at the time) Massachusetts now has a similar requirement called the FID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted January 16, 2019 at 05:28 PM Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 05:28 PM The original purpose is described above. The reason it was passed was so that the homicide rates would drop. Shockingly it didn't help. Leftists will tell you that it helped and point at when it fell in the early 90's. What they won't tell you is that it fell nationwide and had absolutely nothing to do with the FOID act. It's really just another source of revenue for the state. Illinois loves creating duplicative efforts and taxing people in the process. Can anyone guess what the gun dealer licensing won't do? I'll give you a hint, it won't do anything that they're claiming it will do. FOID is just part of a much larger problem....the problem of stupid people being lied to and believing the lies because those lies are coming from "their team". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 16, 2019 at 05:57 PM Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 05:57 PM Just another way for the self-proclaimed elite class to exert control over who they deem lower class peasants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted January 16, 2019 at 06:28 PM Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 06:28 PM Old Man Daley especially wanted it to prevent black people and activists from owning guns (mainly the Black Panthers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted January 16, 2019 at 07:32 PM Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 07:32 PM Old Man Daley especially wanted it to prevent black people and activists from owning guns (mainly the Black Panthers).Truth. Democrats have historically been the party of keeping African Americans down. Opposition to the 13th Amendment, Jim Crow laws, opposition to Civil Rights- all the main political figures were Democrats. And the Welfare System, touted by Democrats, has ruined the black family unit and has made many poor blacks dependent on the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted January 16, 2019 at 07:32 PM Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 07:32 PM Old Man Daley especially wanted it to prevent black people and activists from owning guns (mainly the Black Panthers).^ This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird76Mojo Posted January 16, 2019 at 08:02 PM Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 08:02 PM Old Man Daley especially wanted it to prevent black people and activists from owning guns (mainly the Black Panthers).Truth. Democrats have historically been the party of keeping African Americans down. Opposition to the 13th Amendment, Jim Crow laws, opposition to Civil Rights- all the main political figures were Democrats. And the Welfare System, touted by Democrats, has ruined the black family unit and has made many poor blacks dependent on the government. But in ANY argument they're quick to tell you that the northern/southern parties reversed and it was the evil republicans that fought ending slavery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted January 16, 2019 at 11:02 PM Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 11:02 PM Old Man Daley especially wanted it to prevent black people and activists from owning guns (mainly the Black Panthers).^ This Agree!!If the black community knew their history, they could not vote D with any conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted January 17, 2019 at 01:41 AM Share Posted January 17, 2019 at 01:41 AM Because Illinois does not believe in human rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted January 17, 2019 at 04:58 AM Share Posted January 17, 2019 at 04:58 AM Because Illinois does not believe in human rights. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runsthruammo Posted January 17, 2019 at 06:22 AM Share Posted January 17, 2019 at 06:22 AM As a way to discourage gun ownership, as without the card, (unless an out of state resident) you can get slapped with charges left and right for even breathing near a gun. It's (and only speaking on my experience with the process) purposely long and frustrating so you are even more discourage to continue ahead with the process or renew when it comes time to renew. Under the table it's probably a way for the state to control and have a list of those who own firearms so if they plan on doing something unconstitutional, they know who to go after first. I also think it's pretty illegal and unconstitutional considering if the government charges you and makes you get a license to use a right (in this case, owning or buying a firearm) then they are going against the constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted January 17, 2019 at 06:30 AM Share Posted January 17, 2019 at 06:30 AM Richard J. Daley: "Outside the suburbs in the city, we have control, but what the heck, in the suburbs, there are — you go out to all around our suburbs and you've got people out there, especially the non-white, are buying guns right and left." That's Daley on this call with Lyndon Baines Johnson, at about the 12:30 mark. It's because Daley, and other Democrats, are elitistly racist and don't want non-white citizens to have firearms to protect themselves.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted January 17, 2019 at 02:51 PM Share Posted January 17, 2019 at 02:51 PM The FOID was a "compromise" to ward off a handgun ban. Two national leaders were assasiinated in 1968, Bobby Kennedy and Rev Dr MLK jr. The MLK killing in April sparked riots, including in Chicago. In August there were riots along with the Democratic National Convention. It was all a perfect storm for a FOID card or a handgun ban. With perfect 20/20 hindsight, would a handgun ban have been better?Maybe it would have sparked a federal court case and driven a stake in the 1968 GCA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted January 17, 2019 at 06:44 PM Share Posted January 17, 2019 at 06:44 PM The FOID was a "compromise" to ward off a handgun ban. Two national leaders were assasiinated in 1968, Bobby Kennedy and Rev Dr MLK jr. The MLK killing in April sparked riots, including in Chicago. In August there were riots along with the Democratic National Convention. It was all a perfect storm for a FOID card or a handgun ban. With perfect 20/20 hindsight, would a handgun ban have been better?Maybe it would have sparked a federal court case and driven a stake in the 1968 GCA. I dont buy it....It wasnt a 'compromise' insomuch as they 'failed' to achieve a complete ban....Kennedy shot in Los Angelas CA.MKL shot in Memphis TN Funny..they don't have FOIDS..(Ya....CA has ridiculous laws as it is...yet they still dont require anything such as a FOID.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted January 17, 2019 at 08:10 PM Share Posted January 17, 2019 at 08:10 PM Has the FOID ever been challenged in Illinois or Federal courts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 17, 2019 at 09:15 PM Share Posted January 17, 2019 at 09:15 PM Plain and simple, to keep people under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted January 18, 2019 at 12:52 AM Share Posted January 18, 2019 at 12:52 AM The FOID was a "compromise" to ward off a handgun ban. Two national leaders were assasiinated in 1968, Bobby Kennedy and Rev Dr MLK jr. The MLK killing in April sparked riots, including in Chicago. In August there were riots along with the Democratic National Convention. It was all a perfect storm for a FOID card or a handgun ban. With perfect 20/20 hindsight, would a handgun ban have been better?Maybe it would have sparked a federal court case and driven a stake in the 1968 GCA. I dont buy it....It wasnt a 'compromise' insomuch as they 'failed' to achieve a complete ban....Kennedy shot in Los Angelas CA.MKL shot in Memphis TN Funny..they don't have FOIDS..(Ya....CA has ridiculous laws as it is...yet they still dont require anything such as a FOID.)Funny how two men assassinated with rifles sparked debate of a handgun ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted January 18, 2019 at 02:44 AM Share Posted January 18, 2019 at 02:44 AM The FOID was a "compromise" to ward off a handgun ban. Two national leaders were assasiinated in 1968, Bobby Kennedy and Rev Dr MLK jr. The MLK killing in April sparked riots, including in Chicago. In August there were riots along with the Democratic National Convention. It was all a perfect storm for a FOID card or a handgun ban. With perfect 20/20 hindsight, would a handgun ban have been better?Maybe it would have sparked a federal court case and driven a stake in the 1968 GCA. I dont buy it....It wasnt a 'compromise' insomuch as they 'failed' to achieve a complete ban....Kennedy shot in Los Angelas CA.MKL shot in Memphis TN Funny..they don't have FOIDS..(Ya....CA has ridiculous laws as it is...yet they still dont require anything such as a FOID.)Funny how two men assassinated with rifles sparked debate of a handgun ban Not that I agree with the FOID, but Bobby Kennedy was killed by a handgun. 1 out of 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted January 18, 2019 at 08:49 PM Share Posted January 18, 2019 at 08:49 PM I dont buy it.... It wasnt a 'compromise' insomuch as they 'failed' to achieve a complete ban.... Kennedy shot in Los Angelas CA. MKL shot in Memphis TN Funny..they don't have FOIDS.. (Ya....CA has ridiculous laws as it is...yet they still dont require anything such as a FOID.)Funny how two men assassinated with rifles sparked debate of a handgun ban Not that I agree with the FOID, but Bobby Kennedy was killed by a handgun. 1 out of 2. Oops, I was thinking of John, would have helped if I had read the entire line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyP Posted January 18, 2019 at 10:17 PM Share Posted January 18, 2019 at 10:17 PM Some cynical people will claim our stupid FOID was a combination of corrupt State Politicians' insatiable money grabbing, a means to deny our Constitutional Rights and a way to keep down people of color. Those cynical people would be correct in their assumptions. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted January 19, 2019 at 11:06 AM Share Posted January 19, 2019 at 11:06 AM Some cynical people will claim our stupid FOID was a combination of corrupt State Politicians' insatiable money grabbing, a means to deny our Constitutional Rights and a way to keep down people of color. Those cynical people would be correct in their assumptions. Just sayin'.Yep, And for those who think the FOID is a good think I ask "What other Constitutional rights should you need a permission card to use ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted January 19, 2019 at 01:44 PM Share Posted January 19, 2019 at 01:44 PM Some cynical people will claim our stupid FOID was a combination of corrupt State Politicians' insatiable money grabbing, a means to deny our Constitutional Rights and a way to keep down people of color. Those cynical people would be correct in their assumptions. Just sayin'. Yep, And for those who think the FOID is a good think I ask "What other Constitutional rights should you need a permission card to use ?"Just remind leftists that FOID budget overruns come out of the DNR budget. And there's always overruns. What's more important, a laminated permission slip that criminals don't bother to apply for? Or the environment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted January 19, 2019 at 04:57 PM Share Posted January 19, 2019 at 04:57 PM Just curious, why is Illinois the only state that requires a FOID? What is the purpose?The original purpose was to keep blacks from owning firearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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