evilbrownrifle Posted June 10, 2019 at 06:40 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 06:40 PM "The Trace" a gun control group, has put together this nifty map. When you zoom out it looks bad, because even a single incident shows up when you zoom out to near lunar orbit distances instead of disappearing as it should very early in the zoom as being insignificant. One dot in the middle of nowhere covers (visually) 20 square miles or more on the map at that zoomed out distance, and appears as strong as 30 or more shooting in one square mile zoomed in. The map of the US really lights up at that distance.In fact. And of course, it maps 5 years of activity. But... Zoom in and the map tells a different story. Looking at Illinois you can see huge areas with no activity, or very little, vs. the concentrations around Chicago, Rockford, Waukegan, Aurora, etc. Even then it seems odd because Chicago looks almost all yellow or red while I know from other maps that there are large areas of Chicago without much homicide. In the Northshore where all the moms screech, virtually nothing. I wonder how a DUI deaths map would look in comparison? Or an opoid deaths map? https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted June 10, 2019 at 06:46 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 06:46 PM I have to give it up for these guys, I love the map. Although zoomed out, Chicago looks like a sea of yellow....no surprise there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSD Posted June 10, 2019 at 07:06 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 07:06 PM Not surprising, they may have included defensive gun use cases. I zoomed into my area, fairly rural so limited data on the map, and found one incident where I know that it was a DGU. In fact the states attorney tried to prosecute and the defendant was found not guilty after pleading self defense. I wonder how many of their "gun violence" data points include defensive or other lawful use of a firearm incidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk5 Posted June 10, 2019 at 07:09 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 07:09 PM When checking my area 1 fatality 2015 officer involved.It was a suicide by cop incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted June 10, 2019 at 07:15 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 07:15 PM Chicago looks like a sattelite photo from space at night. heck all the big cities do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee n. field Posted June 10, 2019 at 08:12 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 08:12 PM "The Trace" a gun control group, has put together this nifty map. When you zoom out it looks bad, because even a single incident shows up when you zoom out to near lunar orbit distances instead of disappearing as it should very early in the zoom as being insignificant. One dot in the middle of nowhere covers (visually) 20 square miles or more on the map at that zoomed out distance, and appears as strong as 30 or more shooting in one square mile zoomed in. The map of the US really lights up at that distance.In fact. And of course, it maps 5 years of activity. But... Zoom in and the map tells a different story. Looking at Illinois you can see huge areas with no activity, or very little, vs. the concentrations around Chicago, Rockford, Waukegan, Aurora, etc. Even then it seems odd because Chicago looks almost all yellow or red while I know from other maps that there are large areas of Chicago without much homicide. In the Northshore where all the moms screech, virtually nothing. I wonder how a DUI deaths map would look in comparison? Or an opoid deaths map? https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/ Data is incomplete, at best. I know of more shootings in my neighborhood than are listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted June 10, 2019 at 09:11 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 09:11 PM Data stopped being collected December 31, 2018.So we all know there are more, or less, or incomplete. Whats amazing.......no one believes these kinds of data or maps or lists are ever correct! Look, enjoy, laugh, cry, but its all for entertainment. Like Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2smartby1/2 Posted June 10, 2019 at 09:38 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 09:38 PM Interesting....Thanks for sharing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted June 10, 2019 at 10:19 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 10:19 PM Remember Sharon is Karen....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted June 10, 2019 at 11:11 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 11:11 PM Not surprising, they may have included defensive gun use cases. I zoomed into my area, fairly rural so limited data on the map, and found one incident where I know that it was a DGU. In fact the states attorney tried to prosecute and the defendant was found not guilty after pleading self defense. I wonder how many of their "gun violence" data points include defensive or other lawful use of a firearm incidents. I saw the same thing I know for a fact that the shooting was a robbery gone bad in Carpentersville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANDY Posted June 10, 2019 at 11:32 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 11:32 PM "The Trace" a gun control group, has put together this nifty map. When you zoom out it looks bad, because even a single incident shows up when you zoom out to near lunar orbit distances instead of disappearing as it should very early in the zoom as being insignificant. One dot in the middle of nowhere covers (visually) 20 square miles or more on the map at that zoomed out distance, and appears as strong as 30 or more shooting in one square mile zoomed in. The map of the US really lights up at that distance.In fact. And of course, it maps 5 years of activity. But... Zoom in and the map tells a different story. Looking at Illinois you can see huge areas with no activity, or very little, vs. the concentrations around Chicago, Rockford, Waukegan, Aurora, etc. Even then it seems odd because Chicago looks almost all yellow or red while I know from other maps that there are large areas of Chicago without much homicide. In the Northshore where all the moms screech, virtually nothing. I wonder how a DUI deaths map would look in comparison? Or an opoid deaths map? https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/ Data is incomplete, at best. I know of more shootings in my neighborhood than are listed. I know of a murder 1 case pending from last year right now that is not listed on the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted June 11, 2019 at 01:18 AM Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 01:18 AM I have never witnessed the escalation we have seen in the last week...heroin keeps on keeping on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted June 11, 2019 at 02:29 AM Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 02:29 AM More on “the Trace” and who they are https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/22/the-new-yorker-published-a-hit-piece-on-the-nra-lets-break-it-down-whos-behind-it-shall-we/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted June 11, 2019 at 02:48 AM Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 02:48 AM More democrats in an area, more shootings. SHHHHHHHHHHHHH. The media will not say a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted June 11, 2019 at 03:12 AM Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 03:12 AM Not entirely accurate.A yellow dot a block from my house actually happened 35 blocks south of me in Garfield Park, rather than Old Irving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted June 11, 2019 at 01:14 PM Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 01:14 PM Mexico looks nice and safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted June 11, 2019 at 10:02 PM Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 10:02 PM I have to give it up for these guys, I love the map. Although zoomed out, Chicago looks like a sea of yellow....no surprise there! Some areas just need more practice time. Dolton, Harvey and Chicago Heights are more red than yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 11, 2019 at 11:39 PM Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 11:39 PM Not surprising, they may have included defensive gun use cases.... If you click on a dot and "read more," it provides the details. There are DGUs. Interestingly, there are also BB gun incidents. Yup, somebody was shot by a BB, and it's on the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agalloch07 Posted June 11, 2019 at 11:54 PM Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 11:54 PM · Hidden by Lou, June 11, 2019 at 11:56 PM - No reason given Hidden by Lou, June 11, 2019 at 11:56 PM - No reason given black people love shooting each other Link to comment
2A4Cook Posted June 12, 2019 at 01:38 AM Share Posted June 12, 2019 at 01:38 AM 1,2,3,4, I declare a thumb war!! Ban thumbs, they're weapons of war!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted June 14, 2019 at 12:53 PM Share Posted June 14, 2019 at 12:53 PM 3 people, including a toddler, shot sitting in a car a block down the street from me last night. A man was killed in the same area less than a month ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted June 16, 2019 at 03:36 AM Share Posted June 16, 2019 at 03:36 AM It's a neat map. I wonder what the underlying tech is. Guessing cliq. The only shooting by my house was police involved / likely suicide by cop: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-bar-and-grill-scene-of-fatal-antioch-shooting-20160416-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted June 16, 2019 at 10:10 PM Share Posted June 16, 2019 at 10:10 PM 3 people, including a toddler, shot sitting in a car a block down the street from me last night. A man was killed in the same area less than a month ago.Lori lighthead will get right on this...its a poverty issue after all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted June 17, 2019 at 01:59 AM Share Posted June 17, 2019 at 01:59 AM 3 people, including a toddler, shot sitting in a car a block down the street from me last night. A man was killed in the same area less than a month ago.maybe it's time to move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted June 20, 2019 at 02:50 PM Share Posted June 20, 2019 at 02:50 PM More on “the Trace” and who they are https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/22/the-new-yorker-published-a-hit-piece-on-the-nra-lets-break-it-down-whos-behind-it-shall-we/ Wow, that's insane. Using their own created message to claim "a source" and then they used that "source" to file a formal complaint with the Feds. All the while, doing the exact thing (fundraising) that they're accusing the NRA of doing. Nice job putting the puzzle pieces together on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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