jackinelgin Posted May 16, 2020 at 06:05 PM Share Posted May 16, 2020 at 06:05 PM Effective May 14, 2020The below interpretation was sent to the East Dundee Police Department and they have made the decision to enforce this “guidance”. While GAT Guns does not agree with this interpretation or the decision to enforce these guidelines, this means that at this time our range is closed to the general public for the purpose of practice. We are currently communicating with the DCEO. The Village of East Dundee has also contacted the DCEO and the Governor’s office on our behalf.We are making every effort to get the range back open as normal. We appreciate your patience and understanding. We will give you all updates as new information is made available to us.Thank you,GAT Guns Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted May 16, 2020 at 07:01 PM Share Posted May 16, 2020 at 07:01 PM Not a fan of Gats but that really sucks for them and why are they making them close now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlin Posted May 16, 2020 at 07:07 PM Share Posted May 16, 2020 at 07:07 PM So you can buy a gun,but not learn to shoot it with live ammo at the range if you have nowhere else to go.That's the govt. for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottFM Posted May 16, 2020 at 07:21 PM Share Posted May 16, 2020 at 07:21 PM I have been thinking of getting a S&W 327 Performance Center revolver. I have been staying away from Gat because it has been so packed with people. Now I may stop buy this week and buy/order one from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinelgin Posted May 16, 2020 at 08:40 PM Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 at 08:40 PM I'm not their biggest fan either but they're 2 minutes from my house so...... Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted May 16, 2020 at 08:41 PM Share Posted May 16, 2020 at 08:41 PM Effective May 14, 2020 The below interpretation was sent to the East Dundee Police Department and they have made the decision to enforce this “guidance”. While GAT Guns does not agree with this interpretation or the decision to enforce these guidelines, this means that at this time our range is closed to the general public for the purpose of practice. We are currently communicating with the DCEO. The Village of East Dundee has also contacted the DCEO and the Governor’s office on our behalf. We are making every effort to get the range back open as normal. We appreciate your patience and understanding. We will give you all updates as new information is made available to us. Thank you, GAT Guns Management I think East Dundee would have to do that because they tax GAT guns an entertainment tax to use the range, if they admit it’s for practice for Second Amendment purposes they lose their amusement tax. GAT should ask each customer their purpose, either practice or entertainment and let them go shoot depending on their answer. ^ this *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted May 16, 2020 at 08:50 PM Share Posted May 16, 2020 at 08:50 PM Wow, they really went downhill since I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted May 16, 2020 at 09:39 PM Share Posted May 16, 2020 at 09:39 PM · Hidden by mauserme, May 16, 2020 at 09:46 PM - No reason given Hidden by mauserme, May 16, 2020 at 09:46 PM - No reason given I have been thinking of getting a S&W 327 Performance Center revolver. I have been staying away from Gat because it has been so packed with people. Now I may stop buy this week and buy/order one from them. So nice you were waiting for them to take a hit business wise in order for you to buy from them. Glad that the EO rules were able to accommodate your needs ...... Link to comment
Craigcelia Posted May 17, 2020 at 03:22 AM Share Posted May 17, 2020 at 03:22 AM unbelievable. I've about had it with this state. I need to move. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted May 17, 2020 at 07:35 PM Share Posted May 17, 2020 at 07:35 PM They got it backwards. Instead of opening now they're closing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 18, 2020 at 04:57 AM Share Posted May 18, 2020 at 04:57 AM https://www2.illinois.gov/dceo/Documents/Essential%20Business%20FAQ.pdf Essential Business FAQ updated 5-15-2020 Can outdoor gun ranges open to the public? Outdoor gun/shooting ranges can open to the public, with restrictions. These businesses must employ the minimum number of staff necessary to maintain operations, including the range master. Congregating areas and the clubhouse must remain closed. Businesses must place social distancing by signage or other means to mark distances between users. Customers must be spaced at a minimum every other station or booth to comply with social distancing. The maximum number of customers permitted in the shooting area is half the total number of shooting booths/stations that are located at the range. What about indoor gun ranges? Indoor ranges should not be open to the public. However, these ranges may be used for law enforcement training and certification purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded&Ready Posted May 19, 2020 at 05:54 AM Share Posted May 19, 2020 at 05:54 AM Buffalo Rock wasn't doing any social distancing when I was there last Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted May 19, 2020 at 12:36 PM Share Posted May 19, 2020 at 12:36 PM Buffalo Rock wasn't doing any social distancing when I was there last Saturday. Time to plan a trip there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted May 19, 2020 at 12:54 PM Share Posted May 19, 2020 at 12:54 PM Buffalo Rock wasn't doing any social distancing when I was there last Saturday.$ Snitches get stitches bro. $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted May 19, 2020 at 02:18 PM Share Posted May 19, 2020 at 02:18 PM Effective May 14, 2020The below interpretation was sent to the East Dundee Police Department and they have made the decision to enforce this “guidance”. While GAT Guns does not agree with this interpretation or the decision to enforce these guidelines, this means that at this time our range is closed to the general public for the purpose of practice. We are currently communicating with the DCEO. The Village of East Dundee has also contacted the DCEO and the Governor’s office on our behalf.We are making every effort to get the range back open as normal. We appreciate your patience and understanding. We will give you all updates as new information is made available to us.Thank you,GAT Guns Management I think East Dundee would have to do that because they tax GAT guns an entertainment tax to use the range, if they admit it’s for practice for Second Amendment purposes they lose their amusement tax. GAT should ask each customer their purpose, either practice or entertainment and let them go shoot depending on their answer. ^ this *** Since when is going to the range "entertainment"? It's not like we can go in our backyards and practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted May 19, 2020 at 03:15 PM Share Posted May 19, 2020 at 03:15 PM Since when is going to the range "entertainment"? It's not like we can go in our backyards and practice. I think Lombard charges an entertainment tax also... I haven't been to Article ll for a while but their website indicates "local taxes".This is probably a more lucrative tax than the Cook Co gun and ammo purchase tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted May 19, 2020 at 10:55 PM Share Posted May 19, 2020 at 10:55 PM Just got an email... Our Range is Now Open! Our Range is open, but some uses are restricted. Please call the store for the latest updates and information.Call for details: 847-428-4867::Following Gov. Pritzker's executive order, everyone is required to wear a face covering while inside the store. A mask is available for purchase upon request.We are constantly working to keep our store clean by sanitizing high-contact surfaces throughout the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 20, 2020 at 12:48 AM Share Posted May 20, 2020 at 12:48 AM Just got an email... Our Range is Now Open! Our Range is open, but some uses are restricted. Please call the store for the latest updates and information.Call for details: 847-428-4867::Following Gov. Pritzker's executive order, everyone is required to wear a face covering while inside the store. A mask is available for purchase upon request.We are constantly working to keep our store clean by sanitizing high-contact surfaces throughout the day. Someone needs to let them know that their requirement to wear a mask puts their customers in violation of the UUW statute and makes them commit a Class 4 Felony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted May 20, 2020 at 01:41 AM Share Posted May 20, 2020 at 01:41 AM Just got an email... Our Range is Now Open! Our Range is open, but some uses are restricted. Please call the store for the latest updates and information.Call for details: 847-428-4867::Following Gov. Pritzker's executive order, everyone is required to wear a face covering while inside the store. A mask is available for purchase upon request.We are constantly working to keep our store clean by sanitizing high-contact surfaces throughout the day.Someone needs to let them know that their requirement to wear a mask puts their customers in violation of the UUW statute and makes them commit a Class 4 Felony. Not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted May 20, 2020 at 02:34 AM Share Posted May 20, 2020 at 02:34 AM Just got an email... Our Range is Now Open! Our Range is open, but some uses are restricted. Please call the store for the latest updates and information.Call for details: 847-428-4867::Following Gov. Pritzker's executive order, everyone is required to wear a face covering while inside the store. A mask is available for purchase upon request.We are constantly working to keep our store clean by sanitizing high-contact surfaces throughout the day.Someone needs to let them know that their requirement to wear a mask puts their customers in violation of the UUW statute and makes them commit a Class 4 Felony.Yeah... this was addressed in the mask thread. There was even a note from ISP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 20, 2020 at 02:50 AM Share Posted May 20, 2020 at 02:50 AM Response from ISP: The Governors Executive Order regarding the wearing of masks or protective facial coverings in public settings during this serious global pandemic was not intended to negatively impact permit holders under the Illinois Concealed Carry Act while legally carrying firearms. The Executive Order does not require or suggest that law enforcement should arrest or criminally charge conceal carry license permit holders for wearing protective masks while in public as long as they are complying with the other provisions of the Illinois Concealed Carry Act and are not committing any other violations of Illinois law. ISP has confidence that law enforcement officers across the state will use appropriate judgment and that elected States Attorneys will likewise exercise sound prosecutorial discretion. If you want to accept this response from the ISP as gospel that every LEO and States Attorney will do the right thing and will be looking out for your best interest then have at it. End result is what the state statute says because that is what you will be held accountable to. The ISP response is written so vague and so open for interpretation that I won't personally take the chance of losing my 2nd amendment right by being charged with a Class 4 Felony. If you are comfortable with this then by all means do as you see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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