Timber Posted March 7, 2019 at 07:10 PM Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 07:10 PM Can someone confirm this to true? Has Hawaii really sent to Federal Congress to amend or repeal 2nd admenment https://youtu.be/HdmKLUh8wxk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twostarrz Posted March 7, 2019 at 07:15 PM Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 07:15 PM https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2019/bills/SCR42_.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted March 7, 2019 at 08:18 PM Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 08:18 PM They have to get 34 states to agree to it for aggregation to a Convention of States, then 38 state legislatures to approve it. Not. Gonna. Happen. To quote Rhianna in the movie Battleship: "Mahalo _____ ___________!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted March 7, 2019 at 08:22 PM Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 08:22 PM Didn't think they could, just can't believe they would be so cold as to put if forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted March 7, 2019 at 08:37 PM Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 08:37 PM Hawaii makes California look like a conservative pro gun state. The Hawaii State Attorney General recently ruled that federally passed HR218, the retired LEO carry act, does not apply in the state of Hawaii. By his ruling out of state LEOs can only carry if they are actively working as a LEO in Hawaii and then only with permission. This is entirely against what HR218 was meant to correct.Retired officers cannot carry by his fiat and they even go so far as to deny carry permits to their own officers when they retire. Hawaii has a May Issue law on the books but as far as anyone can determine, there has never been one issued. They are so @#$@&* arrogant that they refuse to even acknowledge the recipient of a FOIA request asking for the number of carry permits issued. I know because I tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted March 7, 2019 at 08:45 PM Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 08:45 PM Hawaii makes California look like a conservative pro gun state. The Hawaii State Attorney General recently ruled that federally passed HR218, the retired LEO carry act, does not apply in the state of Hawaii. By his ruling out of state LEOs can only carry if they are actively working as a LEO in Hawaii and then only with permission. This is entirely against what HR218 was meant to correct.Retired officers cannot carry by his fiat and they even go so far as to deny carry permits to their own officers when they retire. Hawaii has a May Issue law on the books but as far as anyone can determine, there has never been one issued.They are so @#$@&* arrogant that they refuse to even acknowledge the recipient of a FOIA request asking for the number of carry permits issued. I know because I tried.Unaccountable bureaucrats = tyrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted March 7, 2019 at 09:17 PM Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 09:17 PM On a positive note, the fact that they are attempting to repeal it means they know full well (even though they refuse to admit it) what the 2nd right protects and entails and also know the writing is on the wall for their draconian gun laws once the 2nd is enforced! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailor Posted March 7, 2019 at 09:22 PM Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 09:22 PM Can someone confirm this to true? Has Hawaii really sent to Federal Congress to amend or repeal 2nd admenment It appears five state senators introduced a resolution, which would essentially be Hawaii writing a letter to Congress asking to pretty please amend or repeal the 2nd Amendment. It doesn't appear it's received any action beyond being introduced there. On top, the authors also are outright lying when they claim: WHEREAS, in 1939, the United States Supreme Court adopted a collective rights approach under United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939) by determining that the United States Congress could regulate a sawed-off shotgun that had moved in interstate commerce under the National Firearms Act of 1934 The Court in Miller of course did no such thing as adopt a "collective rights" approach. That's nothing but historical revisionism to try to push their agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted March 7, 2019 at 09:32 PM Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 09:32 PM WHEREAS, under this "individual right theory", the United States Constitution restricts legislative bodies from prohibiting firearm possession, or at the very least, the Second Amendment renders prohibitory and restrictive regulation presumptively unconstitutional; and They just can't accept that they have no power to snatch this right away from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted March 7, 2019 at 10:00 PM Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 10:00 PM WHEREAS, under this "individual right theory", the United States Constitution restricts legislative bodies from prohibiting firearm possession, or at the very least, the Second Amendment renders prohibitory and restrictive regulation presumptively unconstitutional; andThey just can't accept that they have no power to snatch this right away from us. Amazing how the author views individual rights under the Constitution as a "theory"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted March 7, 2019 at 11:13 PM Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 11:13 PM WHEREAS, under this "individual right theory", the United States Constitution restricts legislative bodies from prohibiting firearm possession, or at the very least, the Second Amendment renders prohibitory and restrictive regulation presumptively unconstitutional; andThey just can't accept that they have no power to snatch this right away from us. Hence the reason they try to chip away little by little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted March 7, 2019 at 11:51 PM Share Posted March 7, 2019 at 11:51 PM WHEREAS, under this "individual right theory", the United States Constitution restricts legislative bodies from prohibiting firearm possession, or at the very least, the Second Amendment renders prohibitory and restrictive regulation presumptively unconstitutional; and They just can't accept that they have no power to snatch this right away from us.Hence the reason they try to chip away little by little.Yep, and we still have people that are willing to compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted March 8, 2019 at 01:37 AM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 01:37 AM “We don’t want your guns, we just want common sense gun safety laws”.................. Anyone willing to “compromise” nowadays is a fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twostarrz Posted March 8, 2019 at 01:48 AM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 01:48 AM “We don’t want your guns, we just want common sense gun safety laws”..................Anyone willing to “compromise” nowadays is a fool^^^^100% absolutely this^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgranta Posted March 8, 2019 at 04:51 AM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 04:51 AM Can someone confirm this to true?Has Hawaii really sent to Federal Congress to amend or repeal 2nd admenment It appears five state senators introduced a resolution, which would essentially be Hawaii writing a letter to Congress asking to pretty please amend or repeal the 2nd Amendment. It doesn't appear it's received any action beyond being introduced there. On top, the authors also are outright lying when they claim: WHEREAS, in 1939, the United States Supreme Court adopted a collective rights approach under [/size]United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939) by determining that the United States Congress could regulate a sawed-off shotgun that had moved in interstate commerce under the National Firearms Act of 1934[/size] The Court in Miller of course did no such thing as adopt a "collective rights" approach. That's nothing but historical revisionism to try to push their agenda.Are those 5 senators by doing this conspiring to deprive of rights as defined in federal law as conspiracy against rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgranta Posted March 8, 2019 at 04:54 AM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 04:54 AM “We don’t want your guns, we just want common sense gun safety laws”..................Anyone willing to “compromise” nowadays is a fool^^^^100% absolutely this^^^^How about this for a compromise.Everyone that is actively trying to violate the 2nd amendment should be arrested for conspiracy against rights and sentenced to the the maximum sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted March 8, 2019 at 12:38 PM Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 12:38 PM I hope some of those 82000 sealed indictments deal with this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted March 8, 2019 at 02:51 PM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 02:51 PM “We don’t want your guns, we just want common sense gun safety laws”..................Anyone willing to “compromise” nowadays is a fool^^^^100% absolutely this^^^^How about this for a compromise.Everyone that is actively trying to violate the 2nd amendment should be arrested for conspiracy against rights and sentenced to the the maximum sentence. Those willing to give up their 2A rights should give up all of their rights to show their commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio24 Posted March 8, 2019 at 05:52 PM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 05:52 PM Hawaii makes California look like a conservative pro gun state. I looked up the Hawaii state legislature:25 total senators - 1 Republican51 total House Reps - 5 Republican Ouch! Less than 10% of representatives are ®. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted March 8, 2019 at 08:59 PM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 08:59 PM ^^^^^^ Those willing to give up their 2A rights should give up all of their rights to show their commitment. Based upon the post above this one from Scipio24 it Appears Those willing to give up their 2A Rights vote Democrat !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted March 24, 2019 at 11:12 AM Share Posted March 24, 2019 at 11:12 AM I hope some of those 82000 sealed indictments deal with this stuff.Look at where the majority of the sealed proceedings are in Illinois. They're in the central district of Illinois. Which has jurisdiction over....Springfield. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted March 25, 2019 at 12:31 AM Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 at 12:31 AM This could get very interesting. (Already has been interesting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted March 25, 2019 at 06:14 AM Share Posted March 25, 2019 at 06:14 AM I don't care how pretty their **** islands are, not only am I now never going to vacation there, but if there's ever a vote to revoke their statehood and dump them off on their own - They're gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted March 25, 2019 at 02:40 PM Share Posted March 25, 2019 at 02:40 PM They are welcome to leave, we don't need Hawaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted March 25, 2019 at 04:43 PM Share Posted March 25, 2019 at 04:43 PM They are welcome to leave, we don't need Hawaii. Wait a minute, I like macidanium nuts and pineapples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted March 25, 2019 at 05:46 PM Share Posted March 25, 2019 at 05:46 PM They are welcome to leave, we don't need Hawaii. Wait a minute, I like macidanium nuts and pineapples.And 80 degree days in February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted March 25, 2019 at 08:13 PM Share Posted March 25, 2019 at 08:13 PM They are welcome to leave, we don't need Hawaii. Wait a minute, I like macidanium nuts and pineapples. Then it's time to learn to live without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted March 25, 2019 at 09:31 PM Share Posted March 25, 2019 at 09:31 PM They are welcome to leave, we don't need Hawaii. Wait a minute, I like macidanium nuts and pineapples. Then it's time to learn to live without them. Maybe the U.S. should kick out states that elect left-wing Democrat governors and legislatures. Maybe it is time that we learn to live without them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted March 25, 2019 at 11:20 PM Share Posted March 25, 2019 at 11:20 PM They are welcome to leave, we don't need Hawaii. Wait a minute, I like macidanium nuts and pineapples. Neither are native to Hawaii.Macadamia nuts came from Australia.Pineapples are native to South America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted March 26, 2019 at 12:25 PM Share Posted March 26, 2019 at 12:25 PM Wait a minute, I like macidanium nuts and pineapples.You can have your macadamia nuts and pineapples or your civil liberties. Pick one.Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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