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[Buckfarrack]

Sorry this probably should have been posted in IC forum.It's a March issue but gives me up and downs feelings after reading it.I sure hope the last paragraph is referring to,prior to 5/30/12


http://illinoisissue...ealedcarry.html

Edited by Buckfarrack, 07 May 2012 - 11:29 AM.

[TFC]

The primary has passed, so the last paragraph is sort of a moot point.
But there is some doubts on both sides as to passage. Hopefully more on the anti's side than ours.
The lack of information is keeping most of us anxious.

[Jeffrey]

If gun rights advocates have their way, Illinois will no longer be the last state to oppose concealed firearms in public places


Judging by the direction 49 of 50 states have been moving in regards to 2A rights, Illinois will forever be the last state.

[Bud]

and this late breaking prophesy just in..........

RTC will pass in Illinois this year

[aspen60]

Bud you give me hope each time I see you post, thanks for the positive attitude.

[Jason4567]

Maybe we need a new slogan. "Illinois concealed carry, better last than never!"

[I HATE ILLINOIS]

i keep seeing post of it passing this year and yet from what i read on here is not much talk about rtc even getting voted on this year.  last year there was all kinds of post in alot of different forums, now nothing, i think again nothing will happen this year or next, especially with floridas nightmare, have a good day cause illinois still sucks the last time i checked.

[Sigma]

I HATE ILLINOIS, on 07 May 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

i keep seeing post of it passing this year and yet from what i read on here is not much talk about rtc even getting voted on this year.  last year there was all kinds of post in alot of different forums, now nothing, i think again nothing will happen this year or next, especially with floridas nightmare, have a good day cause illinois still sucks the last time i checked.

Not trying to be mean or anything just wondering what your contributions are to getting this passed. Also would you consider becoming a supporting member of Illinois carry?

[Molly B.]

I HATE ILLINOIS, on 07 May 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

i keep seeing post of it passing this year and yet from what i read on here is not much talk about rtc even getting voted on this year.  last year there was all kinds of post in alot of different forums, now nothing, i think again nothing will happen this year or next, especially with floridas nightmare, have a good day cause illinois still sucks the last time i checked.

Uh, I think there are posts here that we expect a vote on Right to Carry before the end of the spring session and word has it that we are 1-2 votes away.  The push is on to find those few remaining votes.  If you live in or near Cook Co., or know someone who does, phone calls need made to those legislators urging them to support Right to Carry.

[Sigma]

where can we find the list of the no hb148 votes

[chicago]

If I'm not mistaken there were three republicans who voted "no" last year right?  Does anyone know if they are on board for either bills this this year around?

[Scots]

]Here's the list - pretty sure it's public knowledge, so hopefully it's ok to post it...

 New Picture (22).bmp   4MB   72 downloads

[colt-45]

concealed carry will pass........

[SFC Stu]

I HATE ILLINOIS, on 07 May 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

i keep seeing post of it passing this year and yet from what i read on here is not much talk about rtc even getting voted on this year.  last year there was all kinds of post in alot of different forums, now nothing, i think again nothing will happen this year or next, especially with floridas nightmare, have a good day cause illinois still sucks the last time i checked.

Nothing will happen with that attitude! Did you think the media was going to tell you anything but the  oppositions side?

[C0untZer0]

If CC passes in Illinois it's going to cost me a lot of money

First of all I'm going to have to purchase that Rohrbaugh R9 - that's going to run me around $1,200
Then I'm going to need a holster, that's another hundred bucks or so
I'm also going to have to purchase different brands of ammo, the Rohrbaughs can be picky about what ammo they like
Then there is the range time, practicing with the R9 and finding which ammo it likes best

it's all kind of overwhelming when I think of what I'll have to go through

[colt-45]

SFC Stu, on 07 May 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

I HATE ILLINOIS, on 07 May 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

i keep seeing post of it passing this year and yet from what i read on here is not much talk about rtc even getting voted on this year.  last year there was all kinds of post in alot of different forums, now nothing, i think again nothing will happen this year or next, especially with floridas nightmare, have a good day cause illinois still sucks the last time i checked.

Nothing will happen with that attitude! Did you think the media was going to tell you anything but the  oppositions side?

yea i leaned that a year ago, you can't believe the media.

[masconfusion]

Interesting that the publication is from the University of Illinois.  Did anyone notice that?  This is down rigt 'fair and balanced'

[Drylok]

dnielson, on 07 May 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

]Here's the list - pretty sure it's public knowledge, so hopefully it's ok to post it... New Picture (22).bmp

That picture only shows 65 votes, the other picture that's out there floating around shows what we really had which was 68 because there were 3 who had hit the green light then switched to red to bring it back to 65. So you take those 3 added to 65 plus the the 3 Rs who voted no plus Ford and that gives you 72. That's what the optimist in me is hoping for this go around.

Disclaimer: This is not any kind of inside double secret info, just my hope and wish

[Scots]

Correct Drylok - I should have pointed that out (the pic representing 68-3=65).

[Satatic]

Smoke and mirrors.  I doubt it will pass because we dont have the money that chicago does for purchasing votes.

[Buckfarrack]

Satatic, on 08 May 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:

Smoke and mirrors.  I doubt it will pass because we dont have the money that chicago does for purchasing votes.

Just sit back and watch.
It'll pass.

[Davey]

Satatic, on 08 May 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:

Smoke and mirrors.  I doubt it will pass because we dont have the money that chicago does for purchasing votes.

Is it me or are there more negative nannies than before?

[RandyP]

I don't know if it qualifies as 'negative nanny' but some would say that "hope" is merely disappointment delayed.

No one will be happier than I should Carry ever pass in Illinois. As a Chicago resident I do not expect it to get applied locally in my lifetime, but I wish all the rest of the State the joy that freedom may bring whenever it does in fact finally pass in Springfield and then successfully busts the veto and all the expected legal challenges to implementation.

[Jeffrey]

Bud, on 07 May 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

and this late breaking prophesy just in..........

RTC will pass in Illinois this year

237 days....

[chicago]

Does anyone know what Republicans Jim Durkin, Rosemary Mulligan and Sid Mathias' positions are on 148/5745 this year around???

[Molly B.]

Davey, on 08 May 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

Is it me or are there more negative nannies than before?

With all we have been doing to educate the good people of Illinois about our being the only state left without a carry law - IGOLD,  the town hall meetings, speaking at different venues, etc., we are seeing a wonderful increase in our membership numbers.

You must remember some are finding out for the very first time about the progress we are making and they may have their doubts and rightfully so if they are new to what's going on.

Let's welcome the new members, greet them warmly, and if there is one or two who turn out not to be genuine in their interest here, they will be dealt with in fair but firm manner.

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the new guys and girls!!  The more, the merrier or should that be - the more, the more effective we can be!

[Molly B.]

chicago, on 08 May 2012 - 08:16 AM, said:

Does anyone know what Republicans Jim Durkin, Rosemary Mulligan and Sid Mathias' positions are on 148/5745 this year around???

My understanding is that many who were previously against it are waiting on the findings of the Task Force report.  Their voters need to be contacting them and urging their support.

[chicago]

Molly B., on 08 May 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

chicago, on 08 May 2012 - 08:16 AM, said:

Does anyone know what Republicans Jim Durkin, Rosemary Mulligan and Sid Mathias' positions are on 148/5745 this year around???

My understanding is that many who were previously against it are waiting on the findings of the Task Force report.  Their voters need to be contacting them and urging their support.

I'd say this is an absolutely critical link in getting these bills passed.  I'll remain optimistic for the bigger picture but it would be a total shame if we were taken down from within by republican friendly fire. I'm hoping the republican leaders like Tom Cross are putting huge pressure on theses reps this time around.

[TyGuy]

Bud makes me laugh.  I am not as confident as he is, but that doesn't stop me from calling my reps, talking to my friends, posting positive RTC stories on facebook, donating money to the NRA-ILA, etc...  Even when we do get RTC in IL and the battle is won the war will NEVER end.  I will fight the antis for the rest of my life, and I hope to instill the same determination in my children.

[Danielm60660]

Well since the task force due date got pushed back until 31 Dec, where does that lead? By next session the argument will be, "That task force was last year. Things have changed by now."
This is assuming that Bud's optimist is misguided. I hope it isn't.