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#1 Illini2A312

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 08:08 AM

I see this message on logging in, it includes both firearms and ammo orders (albeit I don't know how firearms orders would matter as all FFL's in the area are outside the city anyway). Can anyone confirm this or is this an outdated message?

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 08:24 AM

I purchased a pistol from Bud's through an FFL in Cook County about a month ago. No problems.

This FFL was on their list, I live in Chicago and provided my Chicago address.

They did ship spare mags to me... 10 rounders which are what this .22 pistol takes.

 

Bud's is not on the list of those who will ship ammo to a Chicago address so I have never ordered from them... a buddy in Skokie receives ammo from them.


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Posted 22 October 2019 - 09:11 AM

I purchased a pistol from Bud's through an FFL in Cook County about a month ago. No problems.
This FFL was on their list, I live in Chicago and provided my Chicago address.
They did ship spare mags to me... 10 rounders which are what this .22 pistol takes.
 
Bud's is not on the list of those who will ship ammo to a Chicago address so I have never ordered from them... a buddy in Skokie receives ammo from them.

Bud's refused to sell me a pistol 5 years ago because of my Chicago address. Even though I used a FFL that was on their list.
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Posted 22 October 2019 - 10:00 AM

I logged in, just for fun, and got this pop-up message:

 

Illinois Restrictions

Due to the extensive Illinois State / Cook County restrictions on firearms/firearm related products please verify items being purchased are legal to ship to your area by visiting the following link: Illinois Restrictions

 

It said nothing about Chicago.

My purchase was the last week of August, 2019.

 

This note appears at the end of each Illinois section:

 

Revised 18 May 2018 - DHR

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 10:05 AM

I logged in, just for fun, and got this pop-up message:
 

Illinois Restrictions
Due to the extensive Illinois State / Cook County restrictions on firearms/firearm related products please verify items being purchased are legal to ship to your area by visiting the following link: Illinois Restrictions

 
It said nothing about Chicago.
My purchase was the last week of August, 2019.
 
This note appears at the end of each Illinois section:
 

Revised 18 May 2018 - DHR


There's 3 notifications that I get when I log in, do you only see the Illinois/Cook County ones when you scroll between them?

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 10:26 AM

I'm just getting two:

 

 1- Illinois - Cook County Notice

 2- Illinois State Notice

 

Both refer me to the same Illinois Page.

I wonder why you are getting three.

 

Call (or email) them and ask... 

Report back!

 

*Just a thought...

If you have a 'restricted' item in your shopping cart before you log in, that may trigger the 'can't ship to Chicago' message when you do log in. Mags over 10 (or 12? or 15?) might trigger something. There is a disclaimer that guns are as they come from the factory. IE they won't be removing or swapping 'restricted' mags.

 

My Skokie buddy (Cook County) did buy a pistol with two 13 round mags from Bud's. That was before May '18 and his FFL was in Lake Co.


Edited by soundguy, 22 October 2019 - 10:35 AM.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:04 PM

I'm just getting two:
 
 1- Illinois - Cook County Notice
 2- Illinois State Notice
 
Both refer me to the same Illinois Page.
I wonder why you are getting three.
 
Call (or email) them and ask... 
Report back!
 
*Just a thought...
If you have a 'restricted' item in your shopping cart before you log in, that may trigger the 'can't ship to Chicago' message when you do log in. Mags over 10 (or 12? or 15?) might trigger something. There is a disclaimer that guns are as they come from the factory. IE they won't be removing or swapping 'restricted' mags.
 
My Skokie buddy (Cook County) did buy a pistol with two 13 round mags from Bud's. That was before May '18 and his FFL was in Lake Co.


I just made my account yesterday so there's nothing in my cart. My mailing address on the site is a Chicago address if it matters. I'll see if I get it again today and maybe contact them via their online chat to clear this up if I do see it again.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:09 PM

...

Illinois Restrictions
... Illinois Restrictions

...


The "no semi-auto rifles" in the pdf is basically a cop-out on Bud's part. For example, I'm pretty sure there's no place in Illinois that bans a 10/22 (yet). Bud's has just decided that it's not their job to figure out what's legal and what isn't. They're not the only place to do that.

Meanwhile, feel free to buy elsewhere.
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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:14 PM

... I'll see if I get it again today and maybe contact them via their online chat to clear this up if I do see it again.


Realize that arguing the law with customer service isn't going to get you anywhere. They're not lawyers. They don't determine company policy. Even if they did, they're not going to bow to your authority.

Asking them why the notice is on the site may or may not yield an answer that resembles the underlying reality.

Edited by Euler, 22 October 2019 - 01:14 PM.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:29 PM

Sorry but I see this no different then the mayor of San Fran not allowing people to fly to certain states.


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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:31 PM

I just made my account yesterday so there's nothing in my cart. My mailing address on the site is a Chicago address if it matters. I'll see if I get it again today and maybe contact them via their online chat to clear this up if I do see it again.

 

Another option:

If you created an account because you want to buy a firearm from them, you could go ahead and attempt the purchase.

My first choice for purchase could not be shipped to Illinois (low melt point - stupid Illinois law) so I chose a similar product.

 

It all worked out rather quickly... I sent image of my FOID to my new FFL, checked out at Bud's and picked up my purchase 3 days later. The spare mags arrived a day earlier at my home.

I'll use this FFL again, even if I don't buy from Bud's.


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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:32 PM

 

I purchased a pistol from Bud's through an FFL in Cook County about a month ago. No problems.
This FFL was on their list, I live in Chicago and provided my Chicago address.
They did ship spare mags to me... 10 rounders which are what this .22 pistol takes.
 
Bud's is not on the list of those who will ship ammo to a Chicago address so I have never ordered from them... a buddy in Skokie receives ammo from them.

Bud's refused to sell me a pistol 5 years ago because of my Chicago address. Even though I used a FFL that was on their list.

 

I had the same experience three years ago for a legal bolt action rifle. They will never see another penny from me when there are so many other people who will ship to my FFL. Want the best price, enter the UPC code followed by best price. Bud's is ignorant and a friend to nobody in Illinois.


Edited by WitchDoctor, 22 October 2019 - 01:33 PM.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:44 PM

If they choose not to sell and ship certain items, guns, ammo, toothpicks, shoe polish, whatever, that is their right. 

If you do not like it, spend your money elsewhere.  The 2nd Amendment recognizes the right to bear arms, it does not require anyone to supply them to you.



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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:54 PM

I tried to order a AR PISTOL from them last year. They canceled my order and tied up nearly $2K of my money for a week, despite my advising them that these are legal EVERYWHERE in Illinois.

Yes, Illinois sucks ... but so does Buds.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:58 PM

After reading all this it seems like it'd just be less of a hassle to go with another retailer (Top Gun Supply is probably my next choice albeit they're a bit more expensive than Bud's). Thanks everyone though.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 06:50 PM

Multiple people have reported Bud's refuses to ship ammo to a Chicago zip code.


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Posted 22 October 2019 - 08:08 PM

About 25% of all my transfers come from Bud's from Chicago buyers. The most restrictive online gun dealer is GrabAGun. They will ship guns with no mags and buyers will accept that. The cheap prices does it all the time. I spoke with 2 transferees and each bought 1 mag separately. If they would have bought 2 mags they would have gotten no deal at all, in fact, they would have spent more. Approximately 50% of all my gun sales comes from buyers who were turned down by various online sellers. I do not discriminate on anyone's address. If you are a legal law abiding gun owner, I will order what you want, albeit it's not no NFA item because I can't even own them.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 08:55 PM

I never had an issue with Buds.  I live in Cook county and have stuff shipped to a Cook county FFL all the time.  I have bought many pistols from them that had magazine over 10 rounds and a few bolt action tactical rifle as well.  The only thing I have not tried to buy form them is AR.  Now, Grab a gun is a different story.  They won't ship much to me and when I did try to buy a pistol over 10 rounds they would not ship unless the sent it without the magazine.  I told them to stick it and haven't tried to buy anything from them since.



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Posted 22 October 2019 - 09:12 PM

Multiple people have reported Bud's refuses to ship ammo to a Chicago zip code.


That's disappointing, I was looking at them specifically since they were on the "good to go" list here: http://illinoiscarry...showtopic=54598

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 09:19 PM

 

Multiple people have reported Bud's refuses to ship ammo to a Chicago zip code.


That's disappointing, I was looking at them specifically since they were on the "good to go" list here: http://illinoiscarry...showtopic=54598

 

 

That's true, they are. I believe someone recently told me they successfully ordered from them which is why they're on the list. Though in the past for years, they would deny. If you want to give them a try and met me know if they deny you, I'll remove them.


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Posted 22 October 2019 - 11:46 PM

About 25% of all my transfers come from Bud's from Chicago buyers. The most restrictive online gun dealer is GrabAGun. ...


My personal experience is exactly opposite, although I'm one person and not an FFL. Bud's wouldn't ship me a (non-AR) rifle about 2 years ago, so I bought it from Grab-A-Gun.
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Posted 23 October 2019 - 01:08 PM

 

About 25% of all my transfers come from Bud's from Chicago buyers. The most restrictive online gun dealer is GrabAGun. ...


My personal experience is exactly opposite, although I'm one person and not an FFL. Bud's wouldn't ship me a (non-AR) rifle about 2 years ago, so I bought it from Grab-A-Gun.

 

Me too. Buds would not sell me a Browning Stainless Stalker, a bolt action in .223. Grab a Gun just sold me and a friend G-19s with two fifteen round mags as that is what they come with. Midway will put the squash on anything they determine to not be legal in Chicago. No handgun ammo to Chicago, rifle and shotgun to the door, but no magazines that are even marginally questionable. can't blame them, but will not give Buds another penny. Yeah, Buds. No buddy of mine!


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Posted 23 October 2019 - 01:53 PM

Deleted for over notated a** farts

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Posted 23 October 2019 - 02:05 PM

Bubbacs...

 

Wondering if you are confusing Bud's of Lexington, KY, with Chuck's which is located in the south suburbs of Chicago and has been a frequent target of anti-gun protests?


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Posted 23 October 2019 - 02:50 PM

Sometimes I just wonder if it's a crapshoot with all these online sellers.  I have bought an AR lower from PSA, then the next month they wouldn't ship another one to me (to the same FFL outside Cook County).  PSA says they won't ship ammo to Cook county, but I have regularly order .22lr from them and they ship to me (in Cook County) all the time.  It makes me think it just depends on who is taking care of the orders at that time and they all interpret the law differently.  I have never had issues with Buds, but have had issues with Grab a gun.  Maybe next time I order something I will have an issues with Buds, but not from Grab.



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Posted 23 October 2019 - 05:16 PM

Humm
Did I get the wires crossed
Has my dyslectic a** over took my tiny brain again

It would seem yes!




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