rott Posted June 29, 2015 at 01:23 PM Share Posted June 29, 2015 at 01:23 PM OK, it looks like I will be moving back to IL, after living in free states the last couple of years. I have questions regarding SBR's and silencers. I know I cannot have silencers in IL, and I cannot have an SBR owned by a "gun" trust in IL. When I move, I will obviously need to change the address of my trust to my new, permanent (IL) address. However, I do have trustees identified in my trust that are in "free" states. I THINK, I can just let them hold onto the articles in question forever, without any legal issues. This, of course, assumes I do the 5320.20 and state that it is a permanent move to the trustee's location. Then, even though the address on my trust is IL, I will not have any prohibited items in IL, and everything should be good....correct? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted June 29, 2015 at 02:35 PM Share Posted June 29, 2015 at 02:35 PM I'm interested in the answer. You might need to talk to an attorney though; not sure random (but well-meaning) advice on a gun forum is best for something more complicated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted June 29, 2015 at 02:42 PM Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 at 02:42 PM I understand your comment and agree...I've done fairly significant research, and have had conversations with well informed/respected people in the industry...just not people from IL directly. I will verify additionally, but wanted other input from people here just as a "quick check". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted June 29, 2015 at 02:58 PM Share Posted June 29, 2015 at 02:58 PM What property or items that you own in another state is no concern to Illinois as long as you do not bring it into the state. It has no jurisdiction in other states. Before we got concealed carry, Illinois could not arrest you for having a CCW in Florida and carrying there or other recognizing states. If you are part owner of a business legal in another state, but not legal in Illinois, Illinois cannot charge you will a violation here. There is pending legislation in the Illinois legislature to allow possession of short barreled rifles and shotguns. It is locked in committee now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostone1413 Posted June 29, 2015 at 03:12 PM Share Posted June 29, 2015 at 03:12 PM A fate worse then death moving back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted June 29, 2015 at 03:12 PM Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 at 03:12 PM You can (at least I thought you could) have an SBR in IL, but only if you have a C&R, and only if it is registered to an individual, and not a trust. I just don't want to go through the paperwork and pay another $200 to take it from the trust to me personally....I set up a trust for a reason, and to protect my family. I hate to just lose that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted June 29, 2015 at 03:14 PM Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 at 03:14 PM A fate worse then death moving back.Yea, I know...but my family is worth it to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmjlar15 Posted July 1, 2015 at 03:47 PM Share Posted July 1, 2015 at 03:47 PM What property or items that you own in another state is no concern to Illinois as long as you do not bring it into the state. It has no jurisdiction in other states. Before we got concealed carry, Illinois could not arrest you for having a CCW in Florida and carrying there or other recognizing states. If you are part owner of a business legal in another state, but not legal in Illinois, Illinois cannot charge you will a violation here.There is pending legislation in the Illinois legislature to allow possession of short barreled rifles and shotguns. It is locked in committee now.Do you know which bill this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted July 2, 2015 at 02:37 PM Share Posted July 2, 2015 at 02:37 PM HB3994 “Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that the unlawful use of weapons violation prohibiting a person from selling, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or carrying a rifle having one or more barrels less than 16 inches in length does not apply to a rifle with a barrel or barrels less than 16 inches in length if the overall length of the weapon as modified is less than 26 inches and the person selling, manufacturing, purchasing, or possessing such a rifle has been issued a Dealer in Firearms Other Than Destructive Devices license or a Manufacturer of Firearms Other Than Destructive Devices license from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Effective immediately”. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3994&GAID=13&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=90211&SessionID=88&GA=99 As you may know, the Illinois Legislature is a summer session now for the primary purpose of ironing out a budget. Non-budget legislation will probably not be considered until the regular fall session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler40 Posted July 3, 2015 at 07:27 PM Share Posted July 3, 2015 at 07:27 PM HB3994 “Synopsis As IntroducedAmends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that the unlawful use of weapons violation prohibiting a person from selling, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or carrying a rifle having one or more barrels less than 16 inches in length does not apply to a rifle with a barrel or barrels less than 16 inches in length if the overall length of the weapon as modified is less than 26 inches and the person selling, manufacturing, purchasing, or possessing such a rifle has been issued a Dealer in Firearms Other Than Destructive Devices license or a Manufacturer of Firearms Other Than Destructive Devices license from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Effective immediately”.http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3994&GAID=13&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=90211&SessionID=88&GA=99 As you may know, the Illinois Legislature is a summer session now for the primary purpose of ironing out a budget. Non-budget legislation will probably not be considered until the regular fall session. Not sure I understand the purpose as the majority of people won't get their FFL01 or FFL06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcompton Posted July 3, 2015 at 07:33 PM Share Posted July 3, 2015 at 07:33 PM You can have SBR's now, but the trust is obviously an issue. I guess a quick call to NFA branch could answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted July 3, 2015 at 08:25 PM Share Posted July 3, 2015 at 08:25 PM HB3994 has not passed. Both the state federal governments have laws and regulations on short barreled rifles and shotguns. So one could be in violation of both state and federal laws, or state and not federal, or federal and not state. Until HB3994 or a similar bill passes, I would not bring such a weapon into the state without consulting a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted July 5, 2015 at 01:14 PM Share Posted July 5, 2015 at 01:14 PM You can (at least I thought you could) have an SBR in IL, but only if you have a C&R, and only if it is registered to an individual, and not a trust. I just don't want to go through the paperwork and pay another $200 to take it from the trust to me personally....I set up a trust for a reason, and to protect my family. I hate to just lose that... That's correct. HB3994 Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that the unlawful use of weapons violation prohibiting a person from selling, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or carrying a rifle having one or more barrels less than 16 inches in length does not apply to a rifle with a barrel or barrels less than 16 inches in length if the overall length of the weapon as modified is less than 26 inches and the person selling, manufacturing, purchasing, or possessing such a rifle has been issued a Dealer in Firearms Other Than Destructive Devices license or a Manufacturer of Firearms Other Than Destructive Devices license from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Effective immediately. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3994&GAID=13&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=90211&SessionID=88&GA=99 As you may know, the Illinois Legislature is a summer session now for the primary purpose of ironing out a budget. Non-budget legislation will probably not be considered until the regular fall session. Not sure I understand the purpose as the majority of people won't get their FFL01 or FFL06. HB3994 changes the way SBRs are measured under Illinois law. Existing statute addresses only barrel, but not overall length. The bill also addresses the types of FFLs that can sell SBRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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