Grandpa59 Posted April 11, 2016 at 07:34 PM Share Posted April 11, 2016 at 07:34 PM Just received my 4th letter today dated april 7th. Maybe 6 more?? Lets hope for some good news in the next couple of months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa59 Posted May 16, 2016 at 08:16 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 08:16 PM Just received my 5th letter dated may 9th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Town-Raised Posted May 16, 2016 at 08:50 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 08:50 PM i just checked my ccl status, and i went under board review today. i immediately called isp and they said i had an objection from a local law enforcement agency, i have no idea what this could be for... what are my next steps?And i thought that leo agencies had 30 days to object, and this is my 84th day?i live in cook county, maybe i have been "DARTED"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smidem101 Posted June 6, 2016 at 02:40 AM Share Posted June 6, 2016 at 02:40 AM I got my, Need 30 additional day notice. 30 days ago, I'm interested to know why would the board be made up of members that have regular day jobs but don't have the time to review the applications and still get a salary for doing the job. Also curious to know how is Tom Dart allowed to fill objections to a applicant that meets the requirements for CCW. By the State of Illinois. The last time I checked the criminals were not asking permission to carry a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windermere Posted June 6, 2016 at 12:24 PM Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 at 12:24 PM I feel bad for you guys. Hang in there. The process is slow but the board members are not out to get you. Dart is a major thorn in their backside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockenstein Posted June 6, 2016 at 12:50 PM Share Posted June 6, 2016 at 12:50 PM Hehe I received another 30 day too. Applied March of 2015! This is so pathetic, awesome job state of Illinois. heck I moved and updated my address on my FOID in the beginning of March 2016. I still don't have my updated FOID and it shows as suspended! So I do the right thing and update my new address and now my FOID is suspended until the state gets off their slow a** and re-issues me my new FOID card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windermere Posted June 6, 2016 at 02:42 PM Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 at 02:42 PM Hehe I received another 30 day too. Applied March of 2015! This is so pathetic, awesome job state of Illinois. heck I moved and updated my address on my FOID in the beginning of March 2016. I still don't have my updated FOID and it shows as suspended! So I do the right thing and update my new address and now my FOID is suspended until the state gets off their slow a** and re-issues me my new FOID card!I still can't believe you haven't gotten yours. There must've been a complete halt in operation since the last batch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPDan Posted June 6, 2016 at 07:46 PM Share Posted June 6, 2016 at 07:46 PM I've just gotten my 13th letter of delay, since May of 2015. What can we do to get this turned around? Is there a court process to initiate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted June 6, 2016 at 08:15 PM Share Posted June 6, 2016 at 08:15 PM The CCL Review Board will be meeting twice in June, once in the middle of the month and again at the end of the month. It is my understanding they are working on objections filed back in late March-early April 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted June 6, 2016 at 10:13 PM Share Posted June 6, 2016 at 10:13 PM Only 14 months behind? At this rate, a year from now, they will be around 18 months behind or more. I wonder where the NRA and the others that should be stepping in on these people's behalf have gone? I guess all the big wins are over so the Rights of these people stuck in limbo don't matter as much anymore. Lawsuit time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockenstein Posted June 6, 2016 at 10:14 PM Share Posted June 6, 2016 at 10:14 PM I swear I hope this scenario never happens, but if someone gets mugged or killed in a robbery. And they're on this ridiculous waiting list( and could of protected themselves had they have their CCW)I hope their family sues the living crap out of this state! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted June 11, 2016 at 01:29 AM Share Posted June 11, 2016 at 01:29 AM I swear I hope this scenario never happens, but if someone gets mugged or killed in a robbery. And they're on this ridiculous waiting list( and could of protected themselves had they have their CCW)I hope their family sues the living crap out of this state!Won't do any good. The State is financially broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa59 Posted June 13, 2016 at 02:28 PM Share Posted June 13, 2016 at 02:28 PM I just received my 6th letter last week. Applied 10/1/2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa59 Posted June 13, 2016 at 02:31 PM Share Posted June 13, 2016 at 02:31 PM I swear I hope this scenario never happens, but if someone gets mugged or killed in a robbery. And they're on this ridiculous waiting list( and could of protected themselves had they have their CCW)I hope their family sues the living crap out of this state!I thought about that as well and very valid point. Something has to happen to put spotlight on this slow process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted June 13, 2016 at 02:40 PM Share Posted June 13, 2016 at 02:40 PM I swear I hope this scenario never happens, but if someone gets mugged or killed in a robbery. And they're on this ridiculous waiting list( and could of protected themselves had they have their CCW) I hope their family sues the living crap out of this state! Unfortunately, this clause could make things a little bit complicated: (430 ILCS 66/45) Sec. 45. Civil immunity; Board, employees, and agents. The Board, Department, local law enforcement agency, or the employees and agents of the Board, Department, or local law enforcement agency participating in the licensing process under this Act shall not be held liable for damages in any civil action arising from alleged wrongful or improper granting, denying, renewing, revoking, suspending, or failing to grant, deny, renew, revoke, or suspend a license under this Act, except for willful or wanton misconduct. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted June 13, 2016 at 04:14 PM Share Posted June 13, 2016 at 04:14 PM I swear I hope this scenario never happens, but if someone gets mugged or killed in a robbery. And they're on this ridiculous waiting list( and could of protected themselves had they have their CCW)I hope their family sues the living crap out of this state!Unfortunately, this clause could make things a little bit complicated: (430 ILCS 66/45)Sec. 45. Civil immunity; Board, employees, and agents. The Board, Department, local law enforcement agency, or the employees and agents of the Board, Department, or local law enforcement agency participating in the licensing process under this Act shall not be held liable for damages in any civil action arising from alleged wrongful or improper granting, denying, renewing, revoking, suspending, or failing to grant, deny, renew, revoke, or suspend a license under this Act, except for willful or wanton misconduct. I'd think that the abundance of objections by Dart and his minions, particularly when the majority of them are overturned, could be considered willful and/or wanton misconduct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted June 13, 2016 at 05:00 PM Share Posted June 13, 2016 at 05:00 PM I'd think that the abundance of objections by Dart and his minions, particularly when the majority of them are overturned, could be considered willful and/or wanton misconduct... Possibly so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted June 14, 2016 at 12:54 AM Share Posted June 14, 2016 at 12:54 AM I can't imagine what its going to be like at the 5+ year mark when we start renewing... Do they go thru the same process?If so...its going to be a DISASTER! There may be a need...no..there IS a need right now to address this NOW. They meet only 'twice a month'???I know what I can accomplish in just two days...I'm good at what I do...but to process hundreds of reviews?!?!? Any MORON would know you cannot complete ANY appreciable workload in only TWO DAYS A MONTH!!! Let's say this out loud...Two days...TWO DAYS A MONTH?!?! Its like a welfare work program!(You 'tried' to do a job....twice this month? Here's your check) Imagine if they DOUBLED their 'attention' to...FOUR days a month. Folks may get their permission slips in half the time!Or...perhaps that's 'too much labor' for our Illinois taxpayer financed 'employees'???? The mind BOGGLES...if they..oh....worked on reviews on WHOLE WEEK PER MONTH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted June 14, 2016 at 03:20 AM Share Posted June 14, 2016 at 03:20 AM The members of the board review information on cases throughout the month and familiarize themselves with as many as they can, then they meet and are ready to discuss and vote on the cases they have reviewed. I can see some of the cases I have reviewed, in order to help those who have asked for assistance, the objections/police reports/court documents can be very complicated and difficult to decipher. I do not envy the board's position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerus Posted June 14, 2016 at 05:15 AM Share Posted June 14, 2016 at 05:15 AM The members of the board review information on cases throughout the month and familiarize themselves with as many as they can, then they meet and are ready to discuss and vote on the cases they have reviewed. I can see some of the cases I have reviewed, in order to help those who have asked for assistance, the objections/police reports/court documents can be very complicated and difficult to decipher. I do not envy the board's position. Molly - surely there is a better way to handle things? What's gonna happen at renewal time if they're backed up so far? And how can it even be legal for them to just keep sending letter after letter? They have milllions of our dollars yet they can't find a more efficient means of wading through this administrative BS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted June 14, 2016 at 07:37 AM Share Posted June 14, 2016 at 07:37 AM Time to file a class action suit. Seriously. Cannot just deny civil rights indefinitely. Another suit against Dart for these shenanigans. Wouldn't filing misleading or incorrect information on objections be perjury? At least 1983 material. Legislatively the way to fix this is to mandate a default issue of license in the absence of board action within the time limits already established in the statute. That would still give them at least 60 days. Or just get rid of the star chamber review board altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockenstein Posted June 14, 2016 at 01:25 PM Share Posted June 14, 2016 at 01:25 PM I think more of us should contact news stations! I contacted a few and they seemed to of just blown it off. There's a serious problem with the Illinois CCW process!!! I bet if this was exposed more somethings would get done timely. A lot of people I talk to don't even know of this slower than slow process. Heck 99% of them don't know of this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04 Cobra Posted June 14, 2016 at 02:26 PM Share Posted June 14, 2016 at 02:26 PM It's a surely a slow process.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted June 14, 2016 at 04:37 PM Share Posted June 14, 2016 at 04:37 PM The members of the board review information on cases throughout the month and familiarize themselves with as many as they can, then they meet and are ready to discuss and vote on the cases they have reviewed. I can see some of the cases I have reviewed, in order to help those who have asked for assistance, the objections/police reports/court documents can be very complicated and difficult to decipher. I do not envy the board's position. Molly - surely there is a better way to handle things? What's gonna happen at renewal time if they're backed up so far? And how can it even be legal for them to just keep sending letter after letter? They have milllions of our dollars yet they can't find a more efficient means of wading through this administrative BS? The backlog is created by Cook Co Sheriff Tom Dart. Several pieces of legislation have been proposed to curb his anti-carry policies. So far the proposals have not moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa59 Posted July 14, 2016 at 11:04 PM Share Posted July 14, 2016 at 11:04 PM 7th letter received dated july 11th. How many more, noone knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennisjackson2 Posted August 2, 2016 at 02:35 AM Share Posted August 2, 2016 at 02:35 AM I have 12 LEO I don't know what to do. I'm active military and I do believe I been rob by the State of Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa59 Posted August 6, 2016 at 10:58 PM Share Posted August 6, 2016 at 10:58 PM Just received my 8th letter today dated aug 3rd 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted August 7, 2016 at 10:33 PM Share Posted August 7, 2016 at 10:33 PM Just received my 8th letter today dated aug 3rd 2016.Wow, you're getting them every three weeks now!They at least have the snailmail you are under review here have another letter down pat.Now if they could process the objections as fast as they send out these letters...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Posted August 11, 2016 at 02:08 PM Share Posted August 11, 2016 at 02:08 PM First 30 day letter August 23 2015 last 30 letter june 24 2016 well pass 30 days still under broad review. When is next meeting or clown show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa59 Posted August 13, 2016 at 12:14 AM Share Posted August 13, 2016 at 12:14 AM First 30 day letter August 23 2015 last 30 letter june 24 2016 well pass 30 days still under broad review. When is next meeting or clown show?Wow, you didn't get one in july or early august? ?? Maybe your time has come my friend. Perhaps its a good sign. I applied oct.1st 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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