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#1 PastorRichard

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:43 PM

Has anyone heard anything about the Illinois Conceal Carry renewal. I know the amount, but neither my gun dealers, gun range, or the State Police Officer I inquired has heard anything. My license expires in early 2019 and I would like to avoid waiting until the last minute. Thanks. 



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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:47 PM

Yes we have about 99% of the information, I'm sure we will get 1 or 2 screw balls last minute. Here is a post about it on my website: http://www.alphakoncepts.com/concealed-carry-license-renewal-class/ 

also a video: 


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 08:07 PM

So what is the going rate for the renewal class?
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 08:52 PM

$99
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 08:57 PM

Nothing new but we've had a few discussions about it.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:03 PM

$99

seems expensive 


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:09 PM

It just seems expensive.
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:21 PM

Let’s say you could renew now so that would mean you would have gotten a 4 year license instead of a five year license.
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Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:47 AM

Let’s say you could renew now so that would mean you would have gotten a 4 year license instead of a five year license.
Check back later in the year.

Will do. My only concern is that the waiting period for the renewal is the same as the original application, 120 days. It's possible that a license could expire before the classes begin in late 2018. Remember, we are dealing with the Peoples Republic of Illinois! :) 



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:50 AM

Yes we have about 99% of the information, I'm sure we will get 1 or 2 screw balls last minute. Here is a post about it on my website: http://www.alphakoncepts.com/concealed-carry-license-renewal-class/ 

also a video: 

 

The info was helpful. I have a Master Sargent in the State Police in my congregation and he believes the 3 hour course has yet to be designed or in the early stages. If classes don't even begin until late 2018 it looks like I will be cutting it pretty close since my expiration is Feb 2019. Are your classes in Central Illinois?



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:58 AM

So what is the going rate for the renewal class?

 

I am told that in Illinois it is the same as the original application fee: $150.00.



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:23 PM

So what is the going rate for the renewal class?

I expect to charge in the ball park for $30 fort he class, but there are many variables which will actually dictate class price, when the time comes.  I expect to start classes 4th quarter 2018. The state re-application fee shall be $150. 

 

Will do. My only concern is that the waiting period for the renewal is the same as the original application, 120 days. It's possible that a license could expire before the classes begin in late 2018. Remember, we are dealing with the Peoples Republic of Illinois! :)

 

 

 

the Firearm Concealed Carry Licensing act has a provision which states:

© A license is invalid upon expiration of the license, unless the licensee has submitted an application to renew the license, and the applicant is otherwise eligible to possess a license under this Act.

 

If you've applied and the license expires while awaiting approval, you should be good to go. Of course the officer might not know that, so if I were personally ever in this situation, I would carry a copy of the law as well as my pending application with me!


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:27 PM

 

 

 

The info was helpful. I have a Master Sargent in the State Police in my congregation and he believes the 3 hour course has yet to be designed or in the early stages. If classes don't even begin until late 2018 it looks like I will be cutting it pretty close since my expiration is Feb 2019. Are your classes in Central Illinois?

 

This is something that was written into the law. We instructors know what the state expects from us and we are required to tailor our curriculum accordingly. From the Illinois Concealed Carry licensing Act,

(d) An applicant for renewal of a license shall provide proof of completion of a firearms training course or combination of courses approved by the Department of at least 3 hours.
    (e) A certificate of completion for an applicant's firearm training course shall not be issued to a student who:
        (1) does not follow the orders of the certified
        
firearms instructor;
        (2) in the judgment of the certified instructor,
        
handles a firearm in a manner that poses a danger to the student or to others; or
        (3) during the range firing portion of testing fails
        
to hit the target with 70% of the rounds fired.
    (f) An instructor shall maintain a record of each student's performance for at least 5 years, and shall make all records available upon demand of authorized personnel of the Department.


Furthermore, the Illinois State Police have defined this information in their instructor curriculum application as follows...

 

3-HOUR RENEWAL CURRICULUM
Renewal Firearm Curriculum must be at least 3 hours and include:
1.    All  applicable  State  and  Federal  laws  relating  to  the  ownership,  storage,  carry,  and  transportation  of  a  
firearm; 2 hours Classroom Recommended
 ______
    a.  
The Act relating to the ownership, storage, carry and transportation of a firearm
1)
with emphasis on 430 ILCS 66/10(h) which includes instruction on the appropriate and lawful
interaction with law enforcement while transporting or carrying a concealed firearm.
2)
with emphasis on 430 ILCS 66/65 which includes instruction on prohibited areas and the parking
lot exception.
 ______
    b.  
The FOID Act 430 ILCS 65/1 et. seq.
 ______
    c.  
Relevant portions of the ILCS including but not limited to
1)
720 ILCS 5/7-1. Use of force in defense of a person**
2)
720 ILCS 5/7-2. Use of force in defense of dwelling**
3)
720 ILCS 5/7-3. Use of force in defense of other property**
4)
720 ILCS 24/1 et. seq. Unlawful Use of Weapons**
**
Must define dwelling, aggressor, forcible felony and unlawful use of weapons pursuant to the ILCS.
2.   Weapon Handling; 1 hour Range Recommended
 ______
    a.  
Handgun fundamentals
 ______
    b.  
Handgun concealment
 ______
    c.  
Live fire qualification instruction
 ______
    d.      Live fire qualification with a concealable firearm consisting of minimum of 30 rounds which must
include 10 rounds from a distance of 5 yards; 10 rounds from a distance of 7 yards; and 10 rounds
from a distance of 10 yards at a B-27 silhouette target approved by the Illinois State Police. (See
www.isp.state.il.us/firearms/ccw/ccw-faq.cfm)

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 01:06 PM

Let’s say you could renew now so that would mean you would have gotten a 4 year license instead of a five year license.
Check back later in the year.

Will do. My only concern is that the waiting period for the renewal is the same as the original application, 120 days. It's possible that a license could expire before the classes begin in late 2018. Remember, we are dealing with the Peoples Republic of Illinois! :)
I would like to think the ISP is thinking ahead to the big influx of renewals at the same time and is preparing. I still dont completely undersatand why it takes 90 days to get BG checked now.

Are renewals subject to the same 30 day LE objection window again?
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 01:32 PM

Let’s say you could renew now so that would mean you would have gotten a 4 year license instead of a five year license.
Check back later in the year.

Will do. My only concern is that the waiting period for the renewal is the same as the original application, 120 days. It's possible that a license could expire before the classes begin in late 2018. Remember, we are dealing with the Peoples Republic of Illinois! :)
I would like to think the ISP is thinking ahead to the big influx of renewals at the same time and is preparing. I still dont completely undersatand why it takes 90 days to get BG checked now.
Are renewals subject to the same 30 day LE objection window again?

Renewals, and even an address change, are treated like a brand new application.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 02:31 PM

 

 

Let’s say you could renew now so that would mean you would have gotten a 4 year license instead of a five year license.
Check back later in the year.

Will do. My only concern is that the waiting period for the renewal is the same as the original application, 120 days. It's possible that a license could expire before the classes begin in late 2018. Remember, we are dealing with the Peoples Republic of Illinois! :)
I would like to think the ISP is thinking ahead to the big influx of renewals at the same time and is preparing.

 

I've already begun sending them email questions. I know it's WAY early but I'm doing that kind of as a reminder. Each time they reply basically saying "We'll know more later. contact us again."


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 02:36 PM

I've already begun sending them email questions. I know it's WAY early but I'm doing that kind of as a reminder. Each time they reply basically saying "We'll know more later. contact us again."


So odds are it's going to be a goat rope ... lovely

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:36 AM

Being illinois, nothing will be set until the last possible moment! Who knows it may take a court to make up their mind! Our state seems to have a terrible record for these kind of things.

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 05:50 PM

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 01:18 PM

Will the 3 hour renewal class still be required for those that were exempt from training initially? It wouldn't make sense to be exempted from 16hrs but not 3hrs, but this is Illinois so sense isn't expected.
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Posted 25 January 2018 - 02:13 PM

Will the 3 hour renewal class still be required for those that were exempt from training initially? It wouldn't make sense to be exempted from 16hrs but not 3hrs, but this is Illinois so sense isn't expected.


Very good question. Common Sense would make you believe that they would be exempt from the 3-hour renewal but as you stated it is Illinois. Now I need to go look at the FCCA and see what it says if anything

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 02:27 PM

Will the 3 hour renewal class still be required for those that were exempt from training initially? It wouldn't make sense to be exempted from 16hrs but not 3hrs, but this is Illinois so sense isn't expected.


The answer to your question would be NO. Under paragraph (h) of Section 75 of the FCCA. Those listed under that paragraph are exempt from the training requirements of Section 75.

(h) A person who has qualified to carry a firearm as an active law enforcement or corrections officer, who has successfully completed firearms training as required by his or her law enforcement agency and is authorized by his or her agency to carry a firearm; a person currently certified as a firearms instructor by this Act or by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training Standards Board; or a person who has completed the required training and has been issued a firearm control card by the Department of Financial and Professional Regulation shall be exempt from the requirements of this Section.

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Posted 27 January 2018 - 08:39 AM

Anyone have an idea when these refreshers will be offered? Fall 2018 seems like a drop dead date. Well, not date but season. And prices. I'm eager to bang it out and get my renewal in when ISP makes that available. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
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Posted 29 January 2018 - 07:24 PM

I’m a very low volume instructor (became one to train my Wife and close friends). About 20 people that I spend time with on a regular basis now all carry regularly. It makes me feel safer in my neighborhood... Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal...

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 01:11 PM



Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal...


What makes you think that?
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Posted 30 January 2018 - 01:51 PM

Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal...


What makes you think that?

Because instructors are exempt per the FCCA. See my post #23 above.

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 03:03 PM

Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal...


What makes you think that?


Because instructors are exempt per the FCCA. See my post #23 above.


didn't they change that - I think new instructors need to do 'day 2' now

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 03:41 PM

[quote name="wtr100" post="1126912" timestamp="1517346202"][quote name="THE KING" post="1126901" timestamp="1517341913"][quote name="Mr. Fife" post="1126886" timestamp="1517339517"][quote name="RoadyRunner" post="1126767" timestamp="1517275471"]Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal...[/quote]What makes you think that?[/quote]Because instructors are exempt per the FCCA. See my post #23 above.[/quote]didn't they change that - I think new instructors need to do 'day 2' now[/quote]

That I don't know. State law has not changed

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:26 AM

Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal...What makes you think that?Because instructors are exempt per the FCCA. See my post #23 above.didn't they change that - I think new instructors need to do 'day 2' now

After April 16, 2014, you must have a CCL prior to applying to become an instructor.

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