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#1 GarandCollector

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:37 PM


http://www.oakpark.c...un-legislation/

We will not give up on sensible gun legislation
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Tuesday, November 21st, 2017 12:11 PM

By State Sen. Don Harmon
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At Thanksgiving, we find ourselves blessed if we are able to gather with loved ones for a delicious meal and the simple gift of being together. It is also a time to think of and pray for those among us who struggle and for those gatherings that have been cruelly altered by loss. This awareness gives deeper meaning to the occasion and provides renewed purpose to strive on against challenges yet overcome.

This year and this month, our nation should be especially mindful of those gatherings altered tragically by gun violence across the country. It is not a new problem, obviously, especially in our area, but the failure to reduce these tragedies is a tragedy of our own making. We have enacted important measures but more is urgently needed to curb the flow of guns to our streets and save innocent lives.

But I am not deterred. In the spring, the Illinois Senate approved my legislation to reduce gun violence by licensing gun dealers. I have introduced legislation similar to this every year for 15 years since I first came to elected office. We had hoped the House of Representatives would approve the measure in early November during veto session, but now predict that vote will happen early next year. Change is overdue and required, but with 15 years of striving behind me, I am not discouraged by a few more months.

Partners with me in this call for action grassroots activists, moms, dads, pastors and neighbors are coming together demanding common-sense gun safety legislation as never before. Some have been fighting with me for a long time. I am thankful for the tremendous partners and volunteers that have contributed to this effort. That hard work and commitment is paying off, and the atmosphere is changing. The Senate approved my legislation with bipartisan support. I believe the House will do the same.

No matter how long it takes, we will get there. When that day comes, we will be humbled by years of senseless and preventable loss, but also, thankful.

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 06:11 PM

15 years with no success in passing stupid legislation. Some people are too STUPID to see the writing on the wall.

Nobody wants your gun control legislation to pass.

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 06:19 PM

The crazy thing about his statements is that his early bills were much simpler, with better defined requirements, and he couldn't pass those.

 

So, instead of trying to correct those early bills in ways that might have gained a little support he comes up with a 69 page tome that even his supporters don't understand.

 

And then he acts surprised that he can't get enough votes!


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 06:21 PM

 

 

Partners with me in this call for action ...

 

is Billionaire Bloomberg who puts money into this crony enriching politician's pocket so he can spout his nonsense.


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 06:25 PM

What a joke huh. These people and their fake moral outrage and bullstuff propagandizing never stops does it. They could care less about anything that they are talking about, only about pushing their anti gun agenda and the money and political support they get from billionaires and muppets.

 

Is Introducing redundant legislation aimed solely at putting gun shops out of business and providing less places for legal gun owners to buy firearms really gonna do a darn thing ?

The FOID system didn't work, none of your gun bans or registrations have ever worked and now you're grasping at any last straw you can in the name of keeping your agenda moving. Its pathetic really. I can think of no other word. To keep it up for 15 years you either have to be so blinded by bias you can't see any other point of view or clinically insane. In his case probably both huh.


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 06:34 PM

What did Einstein call doing the same thing over and over and expecting something different?    Insanity.

 

Especially if doing this for 15 years.


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 06:56 PM

What did Einstein call doing the same thing over and over and expecting something different?    Insanity.

 

Especially if doing this for 15 years.

 

Einstein was also quoted as saying "I probably didn't say that". Credit has been given to Einstein, Samuel Clemens, Benjamin Franklin and  numerous others.

 

That said... licensing of FFLs by Illinois is absurd.


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 07:12 PM

15 years ? Who the heck keeps voting for this pos ?

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 07:25 PM

I'll give you a hint - mothers who think that it is traumatic for their children to see the silhouette of a gun on the  Section 65(d) "No Guns" sign and think all places should be prohibited for carrying unless the owner expressly puts up a "Guns Allowed" sign.


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 07:36 PM

Whenever these anti-gunners get their ***** handed to them in the legislature they revert to "We Shall Overcome" martyr status.

 

Considering where Illinois was 20 years ago... the notion that gun control activists are making progress with their regulatory efforts is completely false.  The opposite has happened.  Their unconstitutional infringements in Illinois have completely unraveled and their efforts to recreate them piecemeal have been unsuccessful.


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 07:48 PM

Whenever these anti-gunners get their ***** handed to them in the legislature they revert to "We Shall Overcome" martyr status.
 
Considering where Illinois was 20 years ago... the notion that gun control activists are making progress with their regulatory efforts is completely false.  The opposite has happened.  Their unconstitutional infringements in Illinois have completely unraveled and their efforts to recreate them piecemeal have been unsuccessful.

No kidding. I fail to see how having the carriage ban portion of the AUUW/UUW ruled facially unconstitutional being "progress" (for "them"). How does being forced by a federal court of appeals to pass legislation for carry outside the home equate to progress? How does getting crushed every single time they pull this crap equate to progress? By that same logic, if I take a 10k to Vegas, lose it all, I can still call myself a winner. What'd I win? Nothing. But I won!

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 09:25 PM

Harmon CAN'T let it go, SB1657 is is his "miracle" bill that he has managed to get out of the Senate.

He can't do it again, he doesn't have a naive appointed Senator (Rooney) to bamboozle a vote from.

 

They will hold it  at third reading until the threshold drops back to 60, and come heck or high water - or even an election - sneak it in as quietly as they can for a vote, all the while trying to erode the foundations of resistance to the bill.

 

Quite frankly the lame duck part of the session after the election is when I expect them to make their last ditch attempt.


Edited by markthesignguy, 21 November 2017 - 11:47 PM.

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign......

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 06:17 AM

On Tom Rooney's website it looks like he used his high school yearbook photo.

 

 

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http://senatortomroo...About/Biography

 

And he looks like someone who can be bamboozled.   :wacko:

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 11:50 AM

The guy has a bit of Roland Burris in him...

 

HIS description of how he got into the Illinois Senate:

 

After being elected to represent the 27th District in the Illinois General Assembly, Senator Tom Rooney joined the ranks of Senate Republican lawmakers in September 2016.

 

While ILGA says:

 

Years served: Appointed 2016

 IMHO anybody that's willing to publicly "Bill Clinton" the little details, WILL privately fudge the BIG deals.

 

And does this excerpt from his Biography sound a wee bit self serving?

 

For the past 20 years, Senator Rooney has taught economics and history at West Leyden High School, skillfully balancing his education career with his duties in local government. Senator Rooney is passionate about teaching and has been recognized for his commitment to education by the Foundation for Teaching Economics’ (FTE) who awarded him the nationwide “Excellence in Economic Education” award in 2001.

The Republican Party had BETTER be VERY active in correcting this knife he stuck in our backs.

 

 

We COULD have had a relaxed fall and veto session, NOW we are on tenterhooks until the end of the  100th General assembly before the second Monday of January 2019.   And until SB1657 is dead dead dead and buried I will NOT let anyone forget the actions of this quisling.


Edited by markthesignguy, 22 November 2017 - 12:02 PM.

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign......

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 02:07 PM

How long before sexual assault allegations come out against him? It seems like the common thing now.


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 08:39 AM

The Senator has this bill out there as well.

http://www.oakpark.c...ve-for-opioids/

Harmon bill seeks cannabis alternative for opioids
People prescribed opioids could get temporary medical cannabis card

In an effort to reduce the number opioid prescriptions, Sen. Don Harmon (D-Oak Park) has introduced a bill that would fast-track temporary medical cannabis cards to patients as an alternative.

The Alternative to Opioids Act expedites the application process to 14 days for those prescribed opioid-based painkillers. Those accepted would get a 12-month temporary registry card for cannabis.

Medical cannabis has been legal in Illinois since the establishment of the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program in 2013. The drug is legal for medical uses in 29 states.

Harmon said in a telephone interview that the bill was inspired by patients who testified before the Senate Executive Committee last spring about getting addicted to opioids.

Patients described the difficulty in weening themselves off opioids. He said the bill aims to reduce the use of such drugs.

"With the opioid crisis rapidly getting worse, it's clear that what we're doing now isn't working," Harmon said in a press release. "Research has shown that medical cannabis can treat the same conditions for which opioids are prescribed. With thousands of people from every part of our state dying from opioid addiction, it would be irresponsible for us to not consider any safe alternative treatment."

Harmon noted that more than 60,000 people died from drug overdoses in the U.S. in 2016, "more than the total number of U.S. soldiers killed in the Vietnam War."

He said that opioid-related deaths have increased 120 percent in Illinois from 2014 to 2015, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

Asked whether he was concerned about the argument that cannabis can be a gateway drug for more powerful sedatives, Harmon said, "I don't know that I believe it."

"I know heroin is addictive and opioids are addictive, and they're ruining lives and killing people," he said. "I'm willing to take the risk that medical cannabis is a better substitute.

"I think it's important to build a model that allows patients to quickly transition from opioids to something else," he added. "I'm optimistic that medical cannabis is an appropriate alternative."

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:27 AM

Harmon sounds like he's been smoking the whacky tobaccy for decades, so it's no surprise he's for legalization. 

 

And just because it's legal on the state level, it still makes you a prohibited person or a liar on the 4473 if you partake. This is probably the goal, a back door attempt to ban ownership. 


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:50 AM

Harmon sounds like he's been smoking the whacky tobaccy for decades, so it's no surprise he's for legalization. 

 

And just because it's legal on the state level, it still makes you a prohibited person or a liar on the 4473 if you partake. This is probably the goal, a back door attempt to ban ownership. 

 

I think it's only a matter of interpretation.  

If you don't have any in your pocket or smoking a joint while your filling out the form you are not a user or in possession.  


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 11:21 AM

Partners with me in this call for action ...

 
is Billionaire Bloomberg who puts money into this crony enriching politician's pocket so he can spout his nonsense.


Someone might've mentioned that in a reply...
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Posted 23 November 2017 - 08:41 PM

Harmon can bite me.
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Posted 24 November 2017 - 07:49 AM

Harmon can bite me.

You'd probably catch something bad...



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Posted 24 November 2017 - 08:10 AM

Need a strong candidate against Harmon.


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Posted 26 November 2017 - 08:08 PM

The crazy thing about his statements is that his early bills were much simpler, with better defined requirements, and he couldn't pass those.

 

So, instead of trying to correct those early bills in ways that might have gained a little support he comes up with a 69 page tome that even his supporters don't understand.

 

And then he acts surprised that he can't get enough votes!

 

By confusing the issue with such a tangled web, he is probably thinking it will be easier to pass as the other won't want to take the time to read it.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 10:29 AM

Victory? Apparently he hasn't gotten the memo: the gun control movement's quickly declining.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 10:52 AM

They may be declining but they will never go away............as long as they keep electing Bozo's like Harmon.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 09:31 PM

I inherited him. He has zero tolerance for gun ownership. He will say whatever he wants but he wants zero guns and thinks any little bill helps achieve that goal. While I won't quit I'm actually tired of contacting him as I'm up against Oak Park liberals that are as anti gun as they come.
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Posted 24 December 2017 - 01:49 PM

"Oak Park"... " sensible gun legislation"... "Harmon"....  :laugh:


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Posted 24 December 2017 - 09:16 PM

Victory? Apparently he hasn't gotten the memo: the gun control movement's quickly declining.

I hope that is the case, but we can never rest as they will try all they can to take our freedom away. We do have some stuff in the litter box Harmon can bite and something that weighs around 175 that will bite Harmon.

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I  keep my  sidearm on me when walking, okay being dragged by his big dog self, just in case he gets off-leash.

Harmon for dog food in 2018!


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:54 AM

Sensible gun legislation is code for one day picking up every one of them and making the 2nd amendment worthless. We will not give up on the Constitution and will defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 01:21 AM

When I read garbage from this guy I wonder, how many of his constituents actually want him to persuemthis ? Or is he just another one of these politicians who just pushes a personal agenda ?
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