Illinois Sucks Posted January 15, 2017 at 04:01 PM Share Posted January 15, 2017 at 04:01 PM It has been suggested that "if you are a resident of Cook County, you are strongly encouraged to expunge any arrest or report records you may have". Where do you start? I have had issues with the law in the past primarily for traffic violations but around 15 years ago I found my GF of the time with her ex on Valentine's day and ended up kicking the dude's a**. She called the cops and I ended up getting arrested. There was an order of protection issued at that time. Not too long afterwards, we got back together and on the way to dinner got hit by a car that turned in front of us. When the police got there and checked everyone's IDs, I got charged with violating the order of protection because we never got it removed. We ended up getting that removed and they dropped the case or let me off with the weekend I spent in jail and kept my bond... I can't remember.. it was 15 years ago. Anyway..... Prior to getting my FOID card a couple years ago, I decided to do a UCIA background check to make sure there wasn't anything on my record. I don't really remember what I was charged with when I kicked that dude's a** or how that and the order of protection played out. The report "Failed to reveal any criminal conviction record" and I got my FOID card without issue. I am over 21 years old, have a valid FOID card, have had zero police interaction since the incidents 15 years ago, have never had a DUI, have no reason to be subject to pending arrest and have never had court ordered alcohol or drug treatment. I should be able to fly through the CCL process so last May I took a concealed carry course, qualified and applied for the CCL. An objection was made and I have been in limbo since then. What could the objection be about? Is something besides the UCIA background check used to object and where can I find that info? I would like the opportunity to see this info about me that a police agency suggests proves that I am a danger to myself and others. Where do I find this and where do I start the process of getting this information expunged? Thanks for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell34 Posted January 15, 2017 at 04:22 PM Share Posted January 15, 2017 at 04:22 PM The first thing is to go to Chicago Police Headquarters on 35th and Michigan on the 1st floor and get fingerprinted. Your cook county rap sheet will be available in 7 days. As far as Expungement i would go to the Daley center after you get your rap sheet and talk with someone from Cabrini Green Legal. Make sure you get there about 7:30am, they open at 8 but they only take the first 25 people. If you want to do the Expungement yourself you can go to 2650 S California on the 5th floor. Be adviced that you will be given very little assistance there but you can get it all filed yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted January 15, 2017 at 04:34 PM Share Posted January 15, 2017 at 04:34 PM perhaps some useful info here http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=61583 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Pro Posted January 15, 2017 at 05:38 PM Share Posted January 15, 2017 at 05:38 PM It has been suggested that "if you are a resident of Cook County, you are strongly encouraged to expunge any arrest or report records you may have". Where do you start? I have had issues with the law in the past primarily for traffic violations but around 15 years ago I found my GF of the time with her ex on Valentine's day and ended up kicking the dude's a**. She called the cops and I ended up getting arrested. There was an order of protection issued at that time. Not too long afterwards, we got back together and on the way to dinner got hit by a car that turned in front of us. When the police got there and checked everyone's IDs, I got charged with violating the order of protection because we never got it removed. We ended up getting that removed and they dropped the case or let me off with the weekend I spent in jail and kept my bond... I can't remember.. it was 15 years ago. Anyway..... Prior to getting my FOID card a couple years ago, I decided to do a UCIA background check to make sure there wasn't anything on my record. I don't really remember what I was charged with when I kicked that dude's a** or how that and the order of protection played out. The report "Failed to reveal any criminal conviction record" and I got my FOID card without issue. I am over 21 years old, have a valid FOID card, have had zero police interaction since the incidents 15 years ago, have never had a DUI, have no reason to be subject to pending arrest and have never had court ordered alcohol or drug treatment. I should be able to fly through the CCL process so last May I took a concealed carry course, qualified and applied for the CCL. An objection was made and I have been in limbo since then. What could the objection be about? Is something besides the UCIA background check used to object and where can I find that info? I would like the opportunity to see this info about me that a police agency suggests proves that I am a danger to myself and others. Where do I find this and where do I start the process of getting this information expunged? Thanks for any help. It is a federal crime under the Gun Control Act:to possess a firearm and/or ammunition while subject to a qualifying Protection Order. 18 U.S.C. Section 922(g)(8)to possess a firearm and/or ammunition after a conviction of a qualifying misdemeanor crime of domestic violence. 18 U.S.C. Section 922(g)(9)https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndga/victim-witness-assistance/federal-domestic-violence I am no lawyer, anyone care to way in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois Sucks Posted January 15, 2017 at 06:59 PM Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 at 06:59 PM It has been suggested that "if you are a resident of Cook County, you are strongly encouraged to expunge any arrest or report records you may have". Where do you start? I have had issues with the law in the past primarily for traffic violations but around 15 years ago I found my GF of the time with her ex on Valentine's day and ended up kicking the dude's a**. She called the cops and I ended up getting arrested. There was an order of protection issued at that time. Not too long afterwards, we got back together and on the way to dinner got hit by a car that turned in front of us. When the police got there and checked everyone's IDs, I got charged with violating the order of protection because we never got it removed. We ended up getting that removed and they dropped the case or let me off with the weekend I spent in jail and kept my bond... I can't remember.. it was 15 years ago. Anyway..... Prior to getting my FOID card a couple years ago, I decided to do a UCIA background check to make sure there wasn't anything on my record. I don't really remember what I was charged with when I kicked that dude's a** or how that and the order of protection played out. The report "Failed to reveal any criminal conviction record" and I got my FOID card without issue. I am over 21 years old, have a valid FOID card, have had zero police interaction since the incidents 15 years ago, have never had a DUI, have no reason to be subject to pending arrest and have never had court ordered alcohol or drug treatment. I should be able to fly through the CCL process so last May I took a concealed carry course, qualified and applied for the CCL. An objection was made and I have been in limbo since then. What could the objection be about? Is something besides the UCIA background check used to object and where can I find that info? I would like the opportunity to see this info about me that a police agency suggests proves that I am a danger to myself and others. Where do I find this and where do I start the process of getting this information expunged? Thanks for any help. It is a federal crime under the Gun Control Act:to possess a firearm and/or ammunition while subject to a qualifying Protection Order. 18 U.S.C. Section 922(g)(8)to possess a firearm and/or ammunition after a conviction of a qualifying misdemeanor crime of domestic violence. 18 U.S.C. Section 922(g)(9)https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndga/victim-witness-assistance/federal-domestic-violence I am no lawyer, anyone care to way in ? The protection order 15 years ago... and it was removed 15 years ago. I have never been convicted of domestic violence. I don't hit girls. The order of protection was to keep me from talking to her family about what happened. She was embarrassed over the situation and did not want them to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDoctor Posted January 15, 2017 at 07:02 PM Share Posted January 15, 2017 at 07:02 PM Use an attorney for $500 bucks and get it done right. Has worked for some of my more violent family members with serious charges. They now have CCW's. They are cheap relatives too. Good luck to you. Cook County, where anything can happen with connections and or money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedriver Posted January 15, 2017 at 10:51 PM Share Posted January 15, 2017 at 10:51 PM She could've been arrested to for violating her own OP as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted January 16, 2017 at 01:25 AM Share Posted January 16, 2017 at 01:25 AM How far over 21 are you? You stated that you "kicked the dude's a s s." If you have been arrested for DV...with no expungement of those arrests...your goose is cooked. How far over 21 are you again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerus Posted January 16, 2017 at 04:57 AM Share Posted January 16, 2017 at 04:57 AM As far as the objections go - any contact with the police can lead to one of they want to be aholes. Far as I'm aware - there is a database of CCL applications that any LEO can access. If they saw your name and remembered your incident then that's probably your source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois Sucks Posted January 16, 2017 at 01:36 PM Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 at 01:36 PM She could've been arrested to for violating her own OP as wellLol... yeah... right. A copy take a pretty girl to jail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois Sucks Posted January 16, 2017 at 01:50 PM Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 at 01:50 PM How far over 21 are you? You stated that you "kicked the dude's a s s." If you have been arrested for DV...with no expungement of those arrests...your goose is cooked. How far over 21 are you again?I was in my 30s when I got arrested. I believe I was charged with DV for "brushing against her as I walked by her". Her and the cops made it up to stack extra charges against me. I told my lawyer I'd never plead to DV because that's not me. I don't hit women. I believe I pled guilty to some sort of assault on the guy. Looks like a lawyer is my best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted January 16, 2017 at 04:27 PM Share Posted January 16, 2017 at 04:27 PM You're aware, of course, that getting all of that expunged will do nothing to expedite your CCL process, right? You're at the mercy of the review board in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted January 16, 2017 at 06:45 PM Share Posted January 16, 2017 at 06:45 PM Having been flagged with an objection for CCL application and a prior DV charge, I'm kind of surprised that didnt trigger the ISP to try and revoke your FOID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerus Posted January 16, 2017 at 07:42 PM Share Posted January 16, 2017 at 07:42 PM How far over 21 are you? You stated that you "kicked the dude's a s s." If you have been arrested for DV...with no expungement of those arrests...your goose is cooked. How far over 21 are you again?I was in my 30s when I got arrested. I believe I was charged with DV for "brushing against her as I walked by her". Her and the cops made it up to stack extra charges against me. I told my lawyer I'd never plead to DV because that's not me. I don't hit women. I believe I pled guilty to some sort of assault on the guy. Looks like a lawyer is my best bet.I'd get a hold of the court records then and see what the conviction was for. A felony or DV conviction would prohibit you. The original DV charge will still be on your record even if you got it dropped to a lessser charged. Btw - domestic violence isn't just violence against women by men. IIRC - women commit more acts of DV than men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted January 16, 2017 at 11:08 PM Share Posted January 16, 2017 at 11:08 PM How far over 21 are you? You stated that you "kicked the dude's a s s." If you have been arrested for DV...with no expungement of those arrests...your goose is cooked. How far over 21 are you again?I was in my 30s when I got arrested. I believe I was charged with DV for "brushing against her as I walked by her". Her and the cops made it up to stack extra charges against me. I told my lawyer I'd never plead to DV because that's not me. I don't hit women. I believe I pled guilty to some sort of assault on the guy. Looks like a lawyer is my best bet. A guy I know plead guilty to a lesser charge than DB and when he applied for his CCL...the ISP re-classified his case and yanked his FOID and now he is Federally prohibited too. Careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted January 16, 2017 at 11:24 PM Share Posted January 16, 2017 at 11:24 PM How far over 21 are you? You stated that you "kicked the dude's a s s." If you have been arrested for DV...with no expungement of those arrests...your goose is cooked. How far over 21 are you again? I was in my 30s when I got arrested. I believe I was charged with DV for "brushing against her as I walked by her". Her and the cops made it up to stack extra charges against me. I told my lawyer I'd never plead to DV because that's not me. I don't hit women. I believe I pled guilty to some sort of assault on the guy. Looks like a lawyer is my best bet. A guy I know plead guilty to a lesser charge than DB and when he applied for his CCL...the ISP re-classified his case and yanked his FOID and now he is Federally prohibited too. Careful. But he pled to assaulting the guy, not his girlfriend. Nothing domestic about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted January 17, 2017 at 12:45 AM Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 12:45 AM How far over 21 are you? You stated that you "kicked the dude's a s s." If you have been arrested for DV...with no expungement of those arrests...your goose is cooked. How far over 21 are you again? I was in my 30s when I got arrested. I believe I was charged with DV for "brushing against her as I walked by her". Her and the cops made it up to stack extra charges against me. I told my lawyer I'd never plead to DV because that's not me. I don't hit women. I believe I pled guilty to some sort of assault on the guy. Looks like a lawyer is my best bet. A guy I know plead guilty to a lesser charge than DB and when he applied for his CCL...the ISP re-classified his case and yanked his FOID and now he is Federally prohibited too. Careful.But he pled to assaulting the guy, not his girlfriend. Nothing domestic about it. Go back and re-read his post. He was arrested for DV for brushing up against her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois Sucks Posted January 17, 2017 at 01:37 AM Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 01:37 AM You're aware, of course, that getting all of that expunged will do nothing to expedite your CCL process, right? You're at the mercy of the review board in that respect. I do realize this won't speed anything along with regards to the CCL. It would be nice to know what the objection is over and see if there is some way to expunge it or have the records sealed. I am hoping to avoid situations like this in the future no matter what it is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois Sucks Posted January 17, 2017 at 01:43 AM Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 01:43 AM Having been flagged with an objection for CCL application and a prior DV charge, I'm kind of surprised that didnt trigger the ISP to try and revoke your FOID. Is simply being charged with domestic violence a disqualifier for a FOID or CCL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois Sucks Posted January 17, 2017 at 01:51 AM Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 01:51 AM How far over 21 are you? You stated that you "kicked the dude's a s s." If you have been arrested for DV...with no expungement of those arrests...your goose is cooked. How far over 21 are you again?I was in my 30s when I got arrested. I believe I was charged with DV for "brushing against her as I walked by her". Her and the cops made it up to stack extra charges against me. I told my lawyer I'd never plead to DV because that's not me. I don't hit women. I believe I pled guilty to some sort of assault on the guy. Looks like a lawyer is my best bet.I'd get a hold of the court records then and see what the conviction was for. A felony or DV conviction would prohibit you. The original DV charge will still be on your record even if you got it dropped to a lessser charged. Btw - domestic violence isn't just violence against women by men. IIRC - women commit more acts of DV than men. I had thought that the UCIA background check would have shown anything that was an issue. That is why I posted... I am curious on where to find anything that could trigger an objection. The issue 15 years ago was in Lake County... Do I need to go to each county and request info on anything they might have? Just hire a lawyer? I have never been convicted of a felony. I have never been convicted of domestic violence. I do realize that domestic violence goes both ways. I dated some crazy chicks back in the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted January 17, 2017 at 01:53 AM Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 01:53 AM Having been flagged with an objection for CCL application and a prior DV charge, I'm kind of surprised that didnt trigger the ISP to try and revoke your FOID. Is simply being charged with domestic violence a disqualifier for a FOID or CCL?As one other poster mentioned above and discussed in some other posts, in some cases the ISP has been reclassifying charges around DV so I cant begin to predict what they might do. It just sounds like they are being aggressive about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois Sucks Posted January 17, 2017 at 01:56 AM Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 01:56 AM How far over 21 are you? You stated that you "kicked the dude's a s s." If you have been arrested for DV...with no expungement of those arrests...your goose is cooked. How far over 21 are you again?I was in my 30s when I got arrested. I believe I was charged with DV for "brushing against her as I walked by her". Her and the cops made it up to stack extra charges against me. I told my lawyer I'd never plead to DV because that's not me. I don't hit women. I believe I pled guilty to some sort of assault on the guy. Looks like a lawyer is my best bet. A guy I know plead guilty to a lesser charge than DB and when he applied for his CCL...the ISP re-classified his case and yanked his FOID and now he is Federally prohibited too. Careful. Am I wrong to assume that as long as you are good on all the items under "am I eligible" link here https://www.ispfsb.com/public/FOID.aspxthat you are good for a FOID or are there other circumstances that can disqualify you? Same question again for the CCL here https://www.ispfsb.com/public/CCL.aspx ? Based on the "are you eligible" questions, I am good on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois Sucks Posted January 17, 2017 at 02:01 AM Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 02:01 AM Having been flagged with an objection for CCL application and a prior DV charge, I'm kind of surprised that didnt trigger the ISP to try and revoke your FOID. Is simply being charged with domestic violence a disqualifier for a FOID or CCL?As one other poster mentioned above and discussed in some other posts, in some cases the ISP has been reclassifying charges around DV so I cant begin to predict what they might do. It just sounds like they are being aggressive about it. I am all ears.. Got any links to threads where this has happened? That would be pretty ****** if that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted January 17, 2017 at 02:09 AM Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 02:09 AM Having been flagged with an objection for CCL application and a prior DV charge, I'm kind of surprised that didnt trigger the ISP to try and revoke your FOID. Is simply being charged with domestic violence a disqualifier for a FOID or CCL?As one other poster mentioned above and discussed in some other posts, in some cases the ISP has been reclassifying charges around DV so I cant begin to predict what they might do. It just sounds like they are being aggressive about it. I am all ears.. Got any links to threads where this has happened? That would be pretty ****** if that happened. I think this was the most recent. http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=64315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois Sucks Posted January 17, 2017 at 02:38 AM Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 02:38 AM Having been flagged with an objection for CCL application and a prior DV charge, I'm kind of surprised that didnt trigger the ISP to try and revoke your FOID. Is simply being charged with domestic violence a disqualifier for a FOID or CCL?As one other poster mentioned above and discussed in some other posts, in some cases the ISP has been reclassifying charges around DV so I cant begin to predict what they might do. It just sounds like they are being aggressive about it. I am all ears.. Got any links to threads where this has happened? That would be pretty ****** if that happened. I think this was the most recent. http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=64315 Thanks for the link. The suggestion in that thread was the charge was changed because "Any battery that involved a spouse, partner, family member, or anyone living in the same home is considered a domestic and falls under the Lautenberg Act." I am not sure how that could possibly apply to my situation. The guy I got into a fight with was my girlfriends ex. Not my spouse, partner, family member or anyone living in the same home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted January 17, 2017 at 03:02 AM Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 03:02 AM You had mentioned a possible charge for DV and LE just seems to take a very hard line when there is anything DV involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois Sucks Posted January 17, 2017 at 03:40 AM Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 03:40 AM You had mentioned a possible charge for DV and LE just seems to take a very hard line when there is anything DV involved I hear ya. I am really interested in figuring out what I was originally charged for and what I plead to. I looked for any paperwork I might have from that time but couldn't find anything. What the heck did I spend time and money for on the UCIA report for if it doesn't tell you anything? Mine came back clean.... I am confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted January 17, 2017 at 04:04 AM Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 04:04 AM I went back a re-read the original post. If I am reading it correct, you cam upon her and a boyfriend together, you proceeded to kick his **** and SHE CALLED THE POLICE!At this same time an order of protection was posted.Now if you kicked the guys **** and the order of protection was for her, they must have thought that you did something to her!Otherwise why would she need an order of protection?And then to exasperate this, you get busted for breaking an order of protection. I'm going to think it's not about kicking the guys **** but for brushing by or what ever else the girl told the cops at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted January 17, 2017 at 05:03 PM Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 05:03 PM How far over 21 are you? You stated that you "kicked the dude's a s s." If you have been arrested for DV...with no expungement of those arrests...your goose is cooked. How far over 21 are you again? I was in my 30s when I got arrested. I believe I was charged with DV for "brushing against her as I walked by her". Her and the cops made it up to stack extra charges against me. I told my lawyer I'd never plead to DV because that's not me. I don't hit women. I believe I pled guilty to some sort of assault on the guy. Looks like a lawyer is my best bet. A guy I know plead guilty to a lesser charge than DB and when he applied for his CCL...the ISP re-classified his case and yanked his FOID and now he is Federally prohibited too. Careful.But he pled to assaulting the guy, not his girlfriend. Nothing domestic about it. Go back and re-read his post. He was arrested for DV for brushing up against her. I'm aware of what's in the original post. Your example was for a guy pleading to a lesser charge, which was then later elevated back to DV status. I see no way that a battery conviction against the guy can in any way, shape or form be upgraded to a DV conviction against the girlfriend. They'd have to change the charge AND the victim. Not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Pro Posted January 17, 2017 at 06:06 PM Share Posted January 17, 2017 at 06:06 PM I applied Oct.1st, 2015 objected Nov.2015 still waiting.Arrested once in my life when I peppered sprayed a tough guy who stated he was going to shoot me in the face. He advanced on me,he got sprayed. Arrested Oct.2001 convicted Jan.2004 / 27 continuances,all by the State ! My only arrest in 65 years,but convicted of battery because this shithead was the son of a Prominent Cook County States Attorney. I really understand, how you feel but without a doubt IMO you are going to get the danger to public safety..If you go to 26th & California 5th floor,you can get a certified copy of all you're arrests and convictions.I believe it covers the entire State,cost $6.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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