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#1 papa

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 11:30 AM


The Army Corps of Engineers may be having a change of heart . We might be able to carry on Corps managed land soon.

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 12:29 PM

What is Army Corps of Engineers managed land? I'm not familiar with it.


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 12:49 PM

What is Army Corps of Engineers managed land? I'm not familiar with it.

The land and campgrounds surrounding the lakes made by the dams Corps of Engineers have built. In Southern Illinois that would be Rend Lake and Carlyle Lake.



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 02:26 PM

 

What is Army Corps of Engineers managed land? I'm not familiar with it.

The land and campgrounds surrounding the lakes made by the dams Corps of Engineers have built. In Southern Illinois that would be Rend Lake and Carlyle Lake.

 

 

Ah ok. Never been to Southern IL so I wouldn't have been there. Any other spots like that up North?


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 03:07 PM

 

What is Army Corps of Engineers managed land? I'm not familiar with it.

The land and campgrounds surrounding the lakes made by the dams Corps of Engineers have built. In Southern Illinois that would be Rend Lake and Carlyle Lake.

 

And Lake Shelbyville.


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 03:10 PM

 

 

What is Army Corps of Engineers managed land? I'm not familiar with it.

The land and campgrounds surrounding the lakes made by the dams Corps of Engineers have built. In Southern Illinois that would be Rend Lake and Carlyle Lake.

 

 

Ah ok. Never been to Southern IL so I wouldn't have been there. Any other spots like that up North?

 

Google Corps of Engineers in IL.  Some pools on the Mississippi, a spot or two on the Illinois and also the Ohio.

 

Hoping this happens sooner than later.

 

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 03:13 PM

Hi,

There are a number of Corp sites on both sides of the Mississippi that we visit for camping.

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:21 AM

Nice!  I imagine their willingness to reconsider stems from the change of administration from "hater-of-all-freedoms" Obama.  This would be a good one to change.  The "no firearms" policy is not that well known and COE land is sometimes unclear.  I would imagine a large number of people unwittingly break federal law on a daily basis on this one, and the law has no good reason.


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:24 AM

I hope the DoD will change their policy at military bases soon as well. My brother is a reservist and a CCL holder. There's no reason I can think of why he shouldn't be allowed to carry on base. The "security" at the base is ridiculously thin. It consists of an unarmed enlisted person at the gate checking IDs. They're not even MPs. If something happens, they call 911. I'm not joking.



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 12:25 PM

Hopefully they can drag the Post Office along with them.

The new DOJ should just publish an opinion that concealed carry is a lawful purpose under the existing federal statute which would solve a lot of problems.
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Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:51 PM

I hope the DoD will change their policy at military bases soon as well. My brother is a reservist and a CCL holder. There's no reason I can think of why he shouldn't be allowed to carry on base. The "security" at the base is ridiculously thin. It consists of an unarmed enlisted person at the gate checking IDs. They're not even MPs. If something happens, they call 911. I'm not joking.

 

I thought this was already, "Taken care of", but still left up to the Base CO.



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 04:05 PM

 

I hope the DoD will change their policy at military bases soon as well. My brother is a reservist and a CCL holder. There's no reason I can think of why he shouldn't be allowed to carry on base. The "security" at the base is ridiculously thin. It consists of an unarmed enlisted person at the gate checking IDs. They're not even MPs. If something happens, they call 911. I'm not joking.

 

I thought this was already, "Taken care of", but still left up to the Base CO.

 

 

In theory, yes--the DoD Instruction now allows it, with permission.  In practice, not at all.  I don't know of a single installation that currently allows concealed carry of personal firearms on the installation by your average military member, despite issuing of the policy in Nov 2016.

 

The LEOSA program is alive and well on some installations, but most members don't meet the LEOSA credential requirements.


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 08:54 PM

What they don't know don't hurt them that why we carry Concealed



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Posted 28 March 2017 - 01:16 PM

The national scope of Army Corps of Engineers land is immense.  

 

From the Spring 2017 issue of The Illinois Shooter, published by ISRA, at page 14:

 

"......the Corps area of jurisdiction covers 12 million acres, 55,000 miles of shoreline, 4,500 miles of trails, 90,000 campsites, and 3,400 boat launch ramps.  It controls 33 percent of all U.S. freshwater fishing."


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