CHICAGO HANDGUN OWNER Posted January 8, 2019 at 11:43 PM Share Posted January 8, 2019 at 11:43 PM What's the protocol for CCL Licensees who don't speak English getting pulled over by the Police? I think this a good reason for everyone to speak English. It could cause an innocent person to get killed for not complying with the Police correctly or doing the wrong move. How do the Police handle this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted January 9, 2019 at 12:11 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 12:11 AM What's the protocol for CCL Licensees who don't speak English getting pulled over by the Police? I think this a good reason for everyone to speak English. It could cause an innocent person to get killed for not complying with the Police correctly or doing the wrong move. How do the Police handle this? The law is the same for everyone. Keep your hands on the wheel. Tell the officer you don't speak english and they will proceed as they always do on any other interaction where the person does't understand English. Interacting with persons who don't speak English is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonap Posted January 9, 2019 at 12:13 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 12:13 AM How did they pass the CCL course if they couldn't speak english? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted January 9, 2019 at 12:21 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 12:21 AM How did they pass the CCL course if they couldn't speak english?There's no requirement that the class be taught in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted January 9, 2019 at 12:27 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 12:27 AM How did they pass the CCL course if they couldn't speak english?There's no requirement that the class be taught in English. I don't remember any question on the application about speaking English either. After reading the OP again I think it is more about requiring everyone to speak English and less about the CCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:16 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:16 AM How do they read the road signs ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:42 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:42 AM I've taught CCL in a foreign language before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windermere Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:42 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:42 AM Learn English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:46 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:46 AM I've taught CCL in a foreign language before.Pig Latin is not a foreign language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:47 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:47 AM Learn English.^^^^This^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:51 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:51 AM How do they read the road signs ??I lived and drove in Japan for 6 years without knowing the language. It's more about the shapes and colors than reading the words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:52 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:52 AM Given that there's no requirement to disclose you are carrying unless asked by LEO, it's totally possible it won't come up at all. Assuming the person pulled over just did some minor thing like a few over the limit or similar, there's really no reason why it would need to be an issue ever. Carry or not, there's no reason to break the law so bad as to draw attention to yourself when driving...and if you do, and you can't even communicate in the most basic way you're probably going to have a bad day that is entirely you're own fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:57 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 01:57 AM I plan on doing classes in Klingon and Pidgin some day. Long term goal is to do a class using just onomatopoeia. Much harder than plain old Esperanto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billzfx4 Posted January 9, 2019 at 02:03 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 02:03 AM inway eforebay ethay ocklay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonap Posted January 9, 2019 at 02:24 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 02:24 AM Learn English.^^^^This^^^^ I agree! It's a crock that any country has to have things in more than one language - especially us. If you're gong to live somewhere learn the local language. If not, that country will end up like ours. We've let the people from other countries not learn English for so long, the all expect it now. (P.S. I know that English is not the, "Official", language of the United States, so don't use that lame excuse.I don't care.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted January 9, 2019 at 02:38 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 02:38 AM inway eforebay ethay ocklay^^ isthay ^^ ETA: you know people are going to be Offened about suggesting people here in the US learn English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted January 9, 2019 at 02:47 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 02:47 AM Learn English.^^^^This^^^^ I agree! It's a crock that any country has to have things in more than one language - especially us. If you're gong to live somewhere learn the local language. If not, that country will end up like ours. We've let the people from other countries not learn English for so long, the all expect it now. (P.S. I know that English is not the, "Official", language of the United States, so don't use that lame excuse.I don't care.) Everywhere I travel I see more and more that Americans are generally deficient in language skills. Many (most?) Europeans are fluent in more than two languages. I worked once with two Swiss guys... one French speaking and the other German speaking. Their common languages, fortunate for me, were English and Spanish. We just don't value other languages enough. I guess there's so much America to explore, we often don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted January 9, 2019 at 03:40 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 03:40 AM Everywhere I travel I see more and more that Americans are generally deficient in language skills. Many (most?) Europeans are fluent in more than two languages. I worked once with two Swiss guys... one French speaking and the other German speaking. Their common languages, fortunate for me, were English and Spanish. We just don't value other languages enough. I guess there's so much America to explore, we often don't have to. If Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Kentucky spoke different languages more of the poplulation would be multi-lingual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted January 9, 2019 at 04:06 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 04:06 AM How do they read the road signs ??I lived and drove in Japan for 6 years without knowing the language. It's more about the shapes and colors than reading the words. Very true, I'm not sure how long its been since most of you have taken the written driver's test in IL, but a good portion (about half) of it is identifying road signs by their shape and color alone (no words) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted January 9, 2019 at 07:34 AM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 07:34 AM Better Question: You have a CCL and circumstances dictate you draw your weapon legally ... bad guy that caused you to draw your weapon doesn’t speak the English. You do EVERYTHING by the Law. Does media fry you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted January 9, 2019 at 12:43 PM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 12:43 PM Better Question: You have a CCL and circumstances dictate you draw your weapon legally ... bad guy that caused you to draw your weapon doesn’t speak the English. You do EVERYTHING by the Law. Does media fry you?Irrelevant, in my opinion. As a CCL holder, if you have to draw your weapon to defend against a threat, there's not likely to be much discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyP Posted January 9, 2019 at 02:10 PM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 02:10 PM I spend an agonizing amount of time behind the wheel here in my inner-city mostly Hiispanic neighborhoods stuck behind drivers who slow down to 20MPH in all the school zones........ on the weekends and after 6:00pm. Were they able to read the English WORDS below the 20 number? They'd then know that the speed reduction ONLY applies to school days when children are present. But they can't and the traffic mess that ensues is the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim123 Posted January 9, 2019 at 03:50 PM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 03:50 PM I spend an agonizing amount of time behind the wheel here in my inner-city mostly Hiispanic neighborhoods stuck behind drivers who slow down to 20MPH in all the school zones........ on the weekends and after 6:00pm. Were they able to read the English WORDS below the 20 number? They'd then know that the speed reduction ONLY applies to school days when children are present. But they can't and the traffic mess that ensues is the result. I do that because I could see them changing the date/time on the cameras to mail out more tickets. I know people who paid tickets and got shaken down by chicago years later about them not paying the ticket they payed years ago. Lucky for them they had saved the proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted January 9, 2019 at 04:48 PM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 04:48 PM How did they pass the CCL course if they couldn't speak english?There's no requirement that the class be taught in English. There should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted January 9, 2019 at 08:00 PM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 08:00 PM I don't think non-citizens should be granted a CCL, and citizens should be required to understand and be able to communicate in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted January 9, 2019 at 08:02 PM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 08:02 PM I don't think non-citizens should be granted a CCL, and citizens should be required to understand and be able to communicate in English. I very much disagree. People traveling, visiting, working legally in the U.S. should have the means to protect themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANDY Posted January 9, 2019 at 09:54 PM Share Posted January 9, 2019 at 09:54 PM I spend an agonizing amount of time behind the wheel here in my inner-city mostly Hiispanic neighborhoods stuck behind drivers who slow down to 20MPH in all the school zones........ on the weekends and after 6:00pm. Were they able to read the English WORDS below the 20 number? They'd then know that the speed reduction ONLY applies to school days when children are present. But they can't and the traffic mess that ensues is the result. Only applies on school days when children are present. But if you don't see any children how do you know they are present. Some sarcasm involved but not totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted January 10, 2019 at 12:57 AM Share Posted January 10, 2019 at 12:57 AM Learn English. RAAAAACIST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted January 10, 2019 at 01:22 AM Share Posted January 10, 2019 at 01:22 AM I don't think non-citizens should be granted a CCL, and citizens should be required to understand and be able to communicate in English. I very much disagree. People traveling, visiting, working legally in the U.S. should have the means to protect themselves.so how does a noncitizen get a CCL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted January 10, 2019 at 01:36 AM Share Posted January 10, 2019 at 01:36 AM I don't think non-citizens should be granted a CCL, and citizens should be required to understand and be able to communicate in English. I very much disagree. People traveling, visiting, working legally in the U.S. should have the means to protect themselves.so how does a noncitizen get a CCL I imagine one who lived in Illinois would take the 16 hour course and apply for a CCL and FOID just like the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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