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#1 TRJ

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 11:58 AM

I've installed a railed hand-guard on my Auto Ordinance .30 Carbine. I put a cheap Primary Arms red-dot on it for giggles, but now I'm ready to pick up the project and put glass on it. 

The problem I'm finding is all the glass out there for scout rifles is kind of meh quality, being generous. 

 

I found a Leapers UTG 1-4x28 30mm scope https://www.amazon.c...e/dp/B00KIDPL08that would do more everything I want it to do, but I trust the Primary Arms red dot that's on it far more than I trust a UTG scope of unknown quality.  It gets great reviews too...But $100 dollar scope (including QD rings) must be garbage....am I just being a snob? 

 

Any other options you might know about that are worth my time? While I don't want to spend over $500 on this...it's more of a toy than anything serious...I do want something quality so I can depend on it if I ever need the toy to take a more serious role.  


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 12:21 PM

I think what you're going to run across when looking for scopes that have long eye relief, is a bunch of handgun scopes.  

 

How many inches do you figure you'll need from your eye, to the eyepiece of the scope?  

 

The Leapers stuff is airsoft quality.  I have a $20 red dot (not Leapers, but basically the same crap) and it works, but the mechanism that holds zero is the weak point.  It works, but I'm not going to trust my life to it.  

 

Check out what Vortex offers.  Even their lower priced stuff is decent, and it's backed by their unconditional lifetime warranty.  I believe most of their riflescopes are 4" or less eye relief.  

 

If you need more than that, you'll need to start looking at Scout rifle specific scopes, and handgun scopes.  The problem with handgun scopes is depending on your needs, they might have too much eye relief lol.  

 

SWFA may have some options to look at that would be far better than the airsoft stuff they sell on amazon.  


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 12:30 PM

Need 13" +/- .5" eye relief.

 

There's a HiLux model out there that like $150. Also seems like garbage...but it has 13" eye relief.

 

https://swfa.com/lea...ut-scope-3.html


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 12:53 PM

Found a Burris the seems like a more mainstream company...https://swfa.com/burris-275x20-scout-scope-102490.html Maybe not garbage. 



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Posted 31 August 2018 - 02:49 PM

This will put you closer to $600, but you won't regret it.  

 

The VX-R 1.5-5x33mm Illuminated Scout Scope combines the ease of the FireDot Duplex Reticle with a variable magnification optic that is designed to be mounted forward of the receiver.

 

 https://gundigest.com/gear-ammo/leupolds-vx-r-scout-firedot-new-age-scout-scope  

 

 


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Posted 31 August 2018 - 03:03 PM

This will put you closer to $600, but you won't regret it.  
 
The VX-R 1.5-5x33mm Illuminated Scout Scope combines the ease of the FireDot Duplex Reticle with a variable magnification optic that is designed to be mounted forward of the receiver.
 
 https://gundigest.com/gear-ammo/leupolds-vx-r-scout-firedot-new-age-scout-scope  

I'd be all over that, but just 6" eye relief. In order to keep the action and ejection clear of scope I need 13".

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 04:38 PM

https://www.amazon.c.../B0062OSZIM#Ask
Nikon pistol scope. Could work.

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 04:40 PM

How are you measuring?

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 04:44 PM

If I was buying one today I'd get the Burris.



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Posted 31 August 2018 - 04:54 PM

How are you measuring?


I mount the rifle and measure from my eye to the front of the action where the ocular lens would be.

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 07:17 PM

Have you considered a standard rifle scope mount?

 



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Posted 31 August 2018 - 08:14 PM

Have you considered a standard rifle scope mount?
 

No. I don't want it to interfere with ejection. I've heard of that arrangement inducing malfunction.

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 08:28 PM

This is the Leupold Scope on my Ruger Scout rifle; I didn't measure the eye relief distance but I'm sure it's around the 12" range.  I may lose something at that distance but I haven't really noticed what it might be.  

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 08:33 PM

This is the Leupold Scope on my Ruger Scout rifle; I didn't measure the eye relief distance but I'm sure it's around the 12" range.  I may lose something at that distance but I haven't really noticed what it might be.  

Which model is that? Exactly what I want to do with mine.

How's the eye relief? Is it fussy? Have to shift your head around to see? Or is it something that is perfect and lined up for a snap shot as soon as you mount?

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 10:51 PM

Leupold Scope on my Ruger Scout rifle; 2.5x  can hit a six inch plate out two 200 yards offhand works for me



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Posted 01 September 2018 - 04:23 AM

Anyone have an SWFA discount code?  I found a Burris handgun scope that meets my needs.

 

https://www.burrisop...-scope-2-7x32mm



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 06:20 PM

I got the Burris 2-7X32. Looks great. Much better than the Bubba red dot that was on there, and with the exception of low light use this puts the "fun" in functional.  Maybe Sunday I'll go to the range and zero.  

 

Pay no attention to the messy bench.

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 06:28 PM

I got the Burris 2-7X32. Looks great. Much better than the Bubba red dot that was on there, and with the exception of low light use this puts the "fun" in functional.  Maybe Sunday I'll go to the range and zero.  

 

Pay no attention to the messy bench.

So you got the handgun model and not the scout model of what is essentially the same scope, correct?
(eye relief being the major differentiator)



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 06:29 PM

Are the iron sights usable?



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 06:30 PM

Are the iron sights usable?


Yep

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 06:36 PM

I got the Burris 2-7X32. Looks great. Much better than the Bubba red dot that was on there, and with the exception of low light use this puts the "fun" in functional.  Maybe Sunday I'll go to the range and zero.  
 
Pay no attention to the messy bench.

So you got the handgun model and not the scout model of what is essentially the same scope, correct?
(eye relief being the major differentiator)
Yes, and because eye relief. The handgun scope actually makes me push my face forward an inch or two at 7 power, but the intent isn't to use anything more than 4 power anyway.




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