steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 12:45 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 12:45 PM https://marchforourlives.com/peace-plan/?utm_source=email&utm_campaign=082119f Way too much to post in quotes. What the pro-2A lobbys/groups plan moving forward? Is there one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:02 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:02 PM There are some very disturbing goals on that site. Not the least is this: 6EMPOWER THE NEXT GENERATIONAutomatically register eligible voters and mail voter registration cards to all Americans when they turn 18. Create the “Safety Corps,” a Peace Corps for gun violence prevention. The younger generations are disproportionately affected by gun violence. They should have a say in how their country solves this epidemic. The 'Safety Corp' coupled with the militant mom's demand stance on firearms, this brings images to my mind of another youth corp back in history . . . and it had little to do with peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:04 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:04 PM Our plan should be to fight this on the local level every step of the way - educate our children/grandchildren to recognize this drivel for the dangerous rhetoric it is. Three fronts friends - legislative, electoral, and judicial on three levels - local, state, national. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:07 PM Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:07 PM Our plan should be to fight this on the local level every step of the way - educate our children/grandchildren to recognize this drivel for the dangerous rhetoric it is. Three fronts friends - legislative, electoral, and judicial on three levels - local, state, national.A plan needs to be drafted and distributed and at least in IL, all 2A groups need to unite and be on board and share the same message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:10 PM Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:10 PM There are some very disturbing goals on that site. Not the least is this: 6EMPOWER THE NEXT GENERATION Automatically register eligible voters and mail voter registration cards to all Americans when they turn 18. Create the Safety Corps, a Peace Corps for gun violence prevention. The younger generations are disproportionately affected by gun violence. They should have a say in how their country solves this epidemic. The 'Safety Corp' coupled with the militant mom's demand stance on firearms, this brings images to my mind of another youth corp back in history . . . and it had little to do with peace.I tried early-mid last year up until now to show people where this group (MFOL) was going and that theyre not just a bunch of kids. Well, here we are. They didnt go away and are getting stronger, have a master plan that their allies will also partake in, and most of all, still have the stage nationally. Theyre not a joke (well, their influence that is) and theyre not going away. And yeah, Safety Corp. Hogg and his sister already broke out the arm bands last year and tried to get people to don them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:20 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:20 PM There are many versions of Bloomberg/Soros funded gun groups - most of them come from the same source and try to disguise themselves as a grassroots force against guns but when it comes right down to it, they aren't grassroots, they are bought and paid for. I wish The Well-Armed Woman group would step in to be a counter-voice to the Mom's. I've talked to some of their local directors but haven't had much success. I hope they understand that being well-armed could be a near impossibility if they don't step into the political fray and stand up against the anti-gunners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:31 PM Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:31 PM There are many versions of Bloomberg/Soros funded gun groups - most of them come from the same source and try to disguise themselves as a grassroots force against guns but when it comes right down to it, they aren't grassroots, they are bought and paid for.What some of us have been preaching/providing evidience on for awhile I wish The Well-Armed Woman group would step in to be a counter-voice to the Mom's. I've talked to some of their local directors but haven't had much success. I hope they understand that being well-armed could be a near impossibility if they don't step into the political fray and stand up against the anti-gunners.They really need to. Ive assisted/provided Kelly with some stuff in the past and have also worked with 1MMAGC. I dont care what people say, we as a whole need to adapt and counter NOW. Some of these groups on our team need to get outspoken and punch back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:55 PM Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 01:55 PM For those that even care, this is the truth behind the group in the OP. Sorry about the format, but the take away is the facts and evidence. This is not about the puppet kids who are the spokesmen, it’s about how it really began and why. Part 1 (beginning)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/14/the-truth-about-march-for-our-lives-and-the-fallout-of-the-msd-shooting-part-1-the-beginning/ Part 2 (midterm push and special interest groups)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/15/the-truth-about-march-for-our-lives-part-2-the-road-to-change-tour/ Part 3 (big money, corporations, election)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/17/the-truth-about-march-for-our-lives-part-3-big-money-corporations-elections/ Extra (2019 propaganda and advertising)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/20/march-for-our-lives-2020-quick-article-based-from-a-publication-released-yesterday/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF1984 Posted August 21, 2019 at 02:54 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 02:54 PM Wow, a "corps" of primarily young people to help influence the larger public attitude toward a government clampdown with an "awareness" campaign and armbands. I can't quite put my finger on where I've heard of something like that happening before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted August 21, 2019 at 03:24 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 03:24 PM mmmmm . . . armbands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted August 21, 2019 at 04:11 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 04:11 PM mmmmm . . . armbands Can I get one? I will wear it only when I open carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRApistol Posted August 21, 2019 at 04:34 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 04:34 PM David Hogg in today`s WAPO story The Peace Plan would create a national licensing and gun registry, long a nonstarter with gun rights advocates; ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines; implement a mandatory gun buyback program; and install a “national director of gun violence prevention” who would report directly to the president and coordinate the federal response to what advocates call a national public health emergency.It would dramatically increase restrictions around owning guns in ways sure to spark fierce blowback, including raising the age to 21 from 18 for those who want to buy guns. It calls for a “multi-step” gun licensing system, overseen by a federal agency, that would include in-person interviews and a 10-day wait before gun purchases are approved. The license would be renewed annually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird76Mojo Posted August 21, 2019 at 04:39 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 04:39 PM Wow, a "corps" of primarily young people to help influence the larger public attitude toward a government clampdown with an "awareness" campaign and armbands. I can't quite put my finger on where I've heard of something like that happening before...http://allnewspipeline.com/Arm_Bands_Gun_Control_Hitlers_Youth.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted August 21, 2019 at 04:40 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 04:40 PM to NRApistol's post: I'm sorry, this made me laugh out loud. So maybe they did let 12 yr olds add a few things of their own to the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 05:02 PM Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 05:02 PM to NRApistol's post: I'm sorry, this made me laugh out loud. So maybe they did let 12 yr olds add a few things of their own to the mix.I think she’s 12 now, she was 11 on 3/24/18....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 05:15 PM Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 05:15 PM They just sent out a text to all of their (MFOL) subscribers on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harley1955 Posted August 21, 2019 at 05:36 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 05:36 PM For those that even care, this is the truth behind the group in the OP. Sorry about the format, but the take away is the facts and evidence. This is not about the puppet kids who are the spokesmen, it’s about how it really began and why. Part 1 (beginning)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/14/the-truth-about-march-for-our-lives-and-the-fallout-of-the-msd-shooting-part-1-the-beginning/ Part 2 (midterm push and special interest groups)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/15/the-truth-about-march-for-our-lives-part-2-the-road-to-change-tour/ Part 3 (big money, corporations, election)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/17/the-truth-about-march-for-our-lives-part-3-big-money-corporations-elections/ Extra (2019 propaganda and advertising)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/20/march-for-our-lives-2020-quick-article-based-from-a-publication-released-yesterday/ Thanks for this. These people are dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 05:40 PM Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 05:40 PM For those that even care, this is the truth behind the group in the OP. Sorry about the format, but the take away is the facts and evidence. This is not about the puppet kids who are the spokesmen, it’s about how it really began and why.Part 1 (beginning)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/14/the-truth-about-march-for-our-lives-and-the-fallout-of-the-msd-shooting-part-1-the-beginning/Part 2 (midterm push and special interest groups)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/15/the-truth-about-march-for-our-lives-part-2-the-road-to-change-tour/Part 3 (big money, corporations, election)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/17/the-truth-about-march-for-our-lives-part-3-big-money-corporations-elections/Extra (2019 propaganda and advertising)https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/04/20/march-for-our-lives-2020-quick-article-based-from-a-publication-released-yesterday/ Thanks for this. These people are dangerous.They are, in more ways than one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybgood Posted August 21, 2019 at 05:51 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 05:51 PM March for our lives link now times out. Think maybe they know we know? Do I need my tinfoil hat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 06:02 PM Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 06:02 PM March for our lives link now times out. Think maybe they know we know? Do I need my tinfoil hat?Oh boy. Tried all links and it’s down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 06:09 PM Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 06:09 PM Just in case, got some of it The plan announces a six-step strategy for addressing gun violence, dubbed, CH.A.N.G.E. Change standards of gun ownership: This calls for a national licensing and registry system for gun ownership. It also includes a complete ban on assault weapons, high-capacity ammunition magazines and “other weapons of war.” This step explicitly aims to reduce the number of firearms in circulation through a buyback program and through policies of disarming those who pose a risk to themselves. Halve the rate of Gun Deaths in 10 years: The organization wants a national emergency declared on gun violence and for the president to set a goal of reducing gun-related injuries and deaths by 50 percent, something that would save an estimated 200,000 lives. Accountability for the gun lobby and industry: This step calls explicitly for a Federally Elections Commission and an Internal Revenue Service inquiry of the National Rifle Association. March For Our Lives always wants a push for the Supreme Court to overturn District of Columbia v. Heller, which ruled a D.C. gun control measure as unconstitutional and laid out the modern interpretation of the Second Amendment related to personal firearm ownership. Name a director of Gun Violence Prevention: The group called for a new administration position who will report directly to the President. This official would oversee cooperative efforts of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Department of Health and Human Services and Centers for Disease Control related to gun violence issues. Generate community-based solutions: Focused on urban violence, this step looks to support local efforts aimed at preventing shooting deaths. That includes suicide prevention, domestic violence prevention and mental health programs. The group also specifically calls for action on police-related shootings. Empower the next generation: The final step relates more to voting. March For Our Lives, a youth-driven movement itself, wants a federal law automatically registering every 18-year-old to vote. The organization also calls for a Safety Corps, similar to the Peace Corps, where young people volunteer to be involved in efforts to prevent gun violence. “The younger generations are disproportionately affected by gun violence. They should have a say in how their country solves this epidemic,” the plan reads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 06:36 PM Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 06:36 PM Disregard post here, was wrong (format change) Something was done in wording though it looks like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted August 21, 2019 at 06:53 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 06:53 PM Shouldn't there be an actual "Safety Corps" where real firearm safety is taught, which has been shown repeatedly to reduce firearm harm in children by teaching them that guns are not toys to be played with, but rather tools that need to be respected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 21, 2019 at 07:29 PM Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 07:29 PM PDF of site/plan before the crash/edit https://www.dropbox.com/s/7g6z6o3rpym371u/MFOL_PeacePlan_2019_-FINAL.pdf?dl=0 Screenprinthttps://www.dropbox.com/s/an74ro82461xcra/SKMBT_C20319082114080.pdf?dl=0 Im tied up, so heres current link. What changed? https://marchforourlives.com/peace-plan/?utm_source=email&utm_campaign=082119f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted August 21, 2019 at 09:56 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 09:56 PM David The Peace Plan would create a national licensing and gun registry, long a nonstarter with gun rights advocates; ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines; implement a mandatory gun buyback program; and install a “national director of gun violence prevention” who would report directly to the president and coordinate the federal response to what advocates call a national public health emergency.It would dramatically increase restrictions around owning guns in ways sure to spark fierce blowback, including raising the age to 21 from 18 for those who want to buy guns. It calls for a “multi-step” gun licensing system, overseen by a federal agency, that would include in-person interviews and a 10-day wait before gun purchases are approved. The license would be renewed annually.Why don't they just say "we're going to implement communism." Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted August 21, 2019 at 11:39 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 11:39 PM Shouldn't there be an actual "Safety Corps" where real firearm safety is taught, which has been shown repeatedly to reduce firearm harm in children by teaching them that guns are not toys to be played with, but rather tools that need to be respected? As a matter of fact, I think that if this veritable Hitler Youth reboot is given any serious thought by any legislative body, we need to hold our elected representatives feet to the fire and demand that they include mandatory firearm safety and familiarization classes in every grade and high school that receives public funding. With NO religious or ideological exemptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybgood Posted August 21, 2019 at 11:52 PM Share Posted August 21, 2019 at 11:52 PM Just sent a copy of what the MFOL is advocating with my wife to her "Well Armed Women" meeting. There may be an uptick in guests in the next few days as the women check out what's in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 22, 2019 at 12:14 AM Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 at 12:14 AM Totally buying it............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 22, 2019 at 12:18 AM Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 at 12:18 AM Just sent a copy of what the MFOL is advocating with my wife to her "Well Armed Women" meeting. There may be an uptick in guests in the next few days as the women check out what's in this thread.They need to see it. I’m done offering “opinions” on this forum in how to fight back, but if they need ideas, message me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted August 22, 2019 at 03:43 AM Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 at 03:43 AM FInally, the truth is told by them. It’s not the kids, it’s everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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