Bud Posted February 21, 2012 at 05:21 PM Posted February 21, 2012 at 05:21 PM and I think Illinois residents should have legal access to them and I thik they need to be removed from the ATF's Class III listing In support of that: Silencers Are Legal
Jeff Johnson Posted February 21, 2012 at 05:28 PM Posted February 21, 2012 at 05:28 PM Suppressor is more accurate but I agree with you. I've had opportunites to play with a few. the quietest one I ever shot was on either a 9mm uzi or a Mac10, and both had the "group therapy" option. interesting that sportsmen in some parts of europe/scandinavia are encouraged to use supressors!
Machine Posted February 21, 2012 at 05:30 PM Posted February 21, 2012 at 05:30 PM I 100% agree. Our sport is noisy and they would certainly help. People watch too much TV and make it an emotional issue. Even if you are in a rural area, your neighbors would rather not hear your 50 BMG at full volume!
Birdmang Posted February 21, 2012 at 05:30 PM Posted February 21, 2012 at 05:30 PM If you own land in a state that allows suppressors, can you get one, pay the tax and keep it there?
Jeffrey Posted February 21, 2012 at 05:47 PM Posted February 21, 2012 at 05:47 PM I 100% agree. Our sport is noisy and they would certainly help. People watch too much TV and make it an emotional issue. Even if you are in a rural area, your neighbors would rather not hear your 50 BMG at full volume!I want a neighbor like that. I would NOT complain. They just have to rub the Illinois part in.
vezpa Posted February 21, 2012 at 07:04 PM Posted February 21, 2012 at 07:04 PM If you own land in a state that allows suppressors, can you get one, pay the tax and keep it there? NO..... Must be the state you permanently live in or reside in (Drivers license or State ID). You can either have the Sheriff sign off on it (which is not going to happen in most places) or show proof that you have established a TRUST. $200 and you get the stamp. I was going to get one in Florida but decided i don't need to draw any attention to or have more government officials from our poorly run ATF researching me. If we can't even get carry here, this will never happen in Illinois. I can see a Bill trying to pass with these a$$holes in Chicago. Good God.... They should be legal in all 50 states to cut down on noise, complaints etc....... But a lot of things in this world should be different. I truly do apologize for Chicago to the rest of you downstate, I feel your pain.
Xwing Posted February 21, 2012 at 07:24 PM Posted February 21, 2012 at 07:24 PM The argument officials use against silencers is “the bad guys use them in the movies”, and the thought that they really suppress the sound enough that it’s as the volume of a whisper.
Patriots & Tyrants Posted February 21, 2012 at 08:48 PM Posted February 21, 2012 at 08:48 PM Would be cool to put a surpressor on a good woodchuck rifle.....The whispering death is coming you lil wood chuck'n ********! Really though, it would be nice to shoot AR's and AK's at an indoor range without double hearing protection.
Bud Posted February 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM Author Posted February 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM Would be cool to put a surpressor on a good woodchuck rifle.....The whispering death is coming you lil wood chuck'n ********! Really though, it would be nice to shoot AR's and AK's at an indoor range without double hearing protection. Using a silencer (or suppressor more correctly as Jeff pointed out) makes a lot of sense to anyone who is as deaf as I am.
Lou Posted February 21, 2012 at 10:28 PM Posted February 21, 2012 at 10:28 PM Would be cool to put a surpressor on a good woodchuck rifle.....The whispering death is coming you lil wood chuck'n ********! Really though, it would be nice to shoot AR's and AK's at an indoor range without double hearing protection. Using a silencer (or suppressor more correctly as Jeff pointed out) makes a lot of sense to anyone who is as deaf as I am.I'm sorry --- what did you say?
anonymous too Posted February 22, 2012 at 05:08 PM Posted February 22, 2012 at 05:08 PM I've always wondered how air rifles get away with noise dampeners. For example: http://www.gamowhisper.com/
Ron Posted February 22, 2012 at 05:17 PM Posted February 22, 2012 at 05:17 PM I've never even seen one let alone heard one - just how much do they reduce the sound? I know it's a general question but let's say on something like a 9mm?
samy12386 Posted February 22, 2012 at 05:44 PM Posted February 22, 2012 at 05:44 PM I've never even seen one let alone heard one - just how much do they reduce the sound? I know it's a general question but let's say on something like a 9mm? It depends on the caliber mostly. From my experience .45 is a great round to suppress since it moves slower than sound already. It's not at all like the movies but can really distort your sense of where the shot came from because the secondary echo is almost non existent.
Jeff Johnson Posted February 22, 2012 at 05:45 PM Posted February 22, 2012 at 05:45 PM I've never even seen one let alone heard one - just how much do they reduce the sound? I know it's a general question but let's say on something like a 9mm? it depends. some cans are pretty effective at reducing noise. I've never shot a .22 rimfire with a can but I've shot 9mm and a .45 with the old large "wiper" type can that was like a somewhat loud pellet gun
riversludge Posted February 22, 2012 at 10:08 PM Posted February 22, 2012 at 10:08 PM On a 10/22 with a can you can hear the bolt sliding.Never shot one on anything bigger. But on that .22 it was cool as heck..
Tvandermyde Posted February 23, 2012 at 01:42 AM Posted February 23, 2012 at 01:42 AM Guys give me some time, there is a plan. But right now I'm working on right to carry, but there is a long term plan that is less than 5 years
Erik_m_o Posted February 23, 2012 at 03:22 PM Posted February 23, 2012 at 03:22 PM I've lived in Louisiana where it is open carry. Not a lot of people had suppressors but some people did have them. Most of the people I talked to who had them said they got them to shoot varmint and not bother their neighbors. But they all had to pay the $200 and then buy the suppressor.
blackhalo Posted February 23, 2012 at 10:26 PM Posted February 23, 2012 at 10:26 PM I've never even seen one let alone heard one - just how much do they reduce the sound? I know it's a general question but let's say on something like a 9mm? I got to shoot a fully auto suppressed MP-5... but because there was a guy shooting a mini-gun 20 feet away, everyone had ears on. I couldn't barely hear the MP-5, so I imagine it's substantially quieter.
bornhunter04 Posted March 2, 2012 at 03:17 AM Posted March 2, 2012 at 03:17 AM I did a long range shoot last weekend in MO where some guys had suppressors on they're .308's.....I'm Jealous! First time, I've ever been around them!
Stavros31 Posted March 2, 2012 at 02:22 PM Posted March 2, 2012 at 02:22 PM Guys give me some time, there is a plan. But right now I'm working on right to carry, but there is a long term plan that is less than 5 years Great to hear Todd!!!
SiliconSorcerer Posted March 11, 2012 at 08:16 PM Posted March 11, 2012 at 08:16 PM The argument officials use against silencers is “the bad guys use them in the movies”, and the thought that they really suppress the sound enough that it’s as the volume of a whisper. I believe the original law was enacted was to prevent pouching. I've never heard one "sound " like on the movies other then on a 22 rifle you hear something, just not the sharp bang.
Don Gwinn Posted March 11, 2012 at 08:27 PM Posted March 11, 2012 at 08:27 PM In some ways, suppressors are the opposite of machine guns. Where machine guns are loud, extremely expensive, and usually good only for converting money into noise really fast, a good suppressor is a safety and teaching tool. I want suppressed .22's badly, if only so I can use them to teach without hearing protection.
Kipp Jones Posted March 11, 2012 at 11:11 PM Posted March 11, 2012 at 11:11 PM I have an idea, if in any state something is illegal or a right is denied, no TV show or movie can contain the illegal or right denied content....
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